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In my opinion, Paganini's Caprice no. 24 sounds more like diavolo than Liszt's arrangement, what do you guys think? Caprice for reference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpnIrE7_1YA (up to 4:24, even has that tough ending) --[[User:Xylo|Xylo]] ([[User talk:Xylo|talk]]) 18:58, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
In my opinion, Paganini's Caprice no. 24 sounds more like diavolo than Liszt's arrangement, what do you guys think? Caprice for reference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpnIrE7_1YA (up to 4:24, even has that tough ending) --[[User:Xylo|Xylo]] ([[User talk:Xylo|talk]]) 18:58, 16 December 2018 (UTC)


DIAVOLO, to me, indeed borrows more from Paganini's Caprice No. 24 than Liszt's Grandes etudes de Paganini No. 6. DIAVOLO borrows variations 3 (@ 0:30), 4 (@ 0:33), and 1 (@ 0:42) from Paganini's Caprice 24.
DIAVOLO, to me, indeed borrows more from Paganini's ''Caprice No. 24'' than Liszt's ''Grandes etudes de Paganini No. 6''. DIAVOLO borrows variations 3 (@ 0:30), 4 (@ 0:33), and 1 (@ 0:42) from Paganini's Caprice 24.
There is also a unique variation @ 0:54 but I cannot tell for sure if it's Paganini's or Liszt's or it's a variation from another person who arranged Paganini's or an original variation.
There is also a unique variation @ 0:54 but I cannot tell for sure if it's Paganini's or Liszt's or it's a variation from another person who arranged Paganini's or an original variation.
I don't know who inspired the finale (1:17). My gut feeling says it's inspired more by Liszt than Paganini but I'll leave it for others to confirm.
However, variation 11 (1:23) and the finale (1:35) are from Liszt's but it's not ''Grandes etudes de Paganini No. 6'' but rather an earlier (and much harder) arrangement entitled ''Etudes d'execution transcendante d'apres Paganini No. 6''. They are almost a one-to-one copy from the said earlier Liszt's arrangement.
--[[User:F5XS.0000a|F5XS.0000a]] ([[User talk:F5XS.0000a|talk]]) 00:27, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
--[[User:F5XS.0000a|F5XS.0000a]] ([[User talk:F5XS.0000a|talk]]) 13:07, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
Correction about my comment about the finale. The finale is actually almost a one-to-one copy of the finale of Liszt's arrangement but it's not Grandes etudes de Paganini No. 6. Rather, it is a copy of the finale of Liszt's earlier arrangement of Paganini's entitled "Etudes d'execution transcendante d'apres Paganini no. 6". But I still stand with what I perceive about the variations: that they are more Paganini's than Liszt's. --[[User:F5XS.0000a|F5XS.0000a]] ([[User talk:F5XS.0000a|talk]]) 11:36, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

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Yeah, the overlays are said to be done by the "Charm Sisters" (チャーム・シスターズ), even though they look very VJ GYO-ish. Either way, I'll leave VJ GYO for his credit on his page for the overlays for DIAVOLO until I hear otherwise.--M.B. 09:00, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, Paganini's Caprice no. 24 sounds more like diavolo than Liszt's arrangement, what do you guys think? Caprice for reference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpnIrE7_1YA (up to 4:24, even has that tough ending) --Xylo (talk) 18:58, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

DIAVOLO, to me, indeed borrows more from Paganini's Caprice No. 24 than Liszt's Grandes etudes de Paganini No. 6. DIAVOLO borrows variations 3 (@ 0:30), 4 (@ 0:33), and 1 (@ 0:42) from Paganini's Caprice 24. There is also a unique variation @ 0:54 but I cannot tell for sure if it's Paganini's or Liszt's or it's a variation from another person who arranged Paganini's or an original variation. However, variation 11 (1:23) and the finale (1:35) are from Liszt's but it's not Grandes etudes de Paganini No. 6 but rather an earlier (and much harder) arrangement entitled Etudes d'execution transcendante d'apres Paganini No. 6. They are almost a one-to-one copy from the said earlier Liszt's arrangement. --F5XS.0000a (talk) 13:07, 26 June 2020 (UTC)