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BPM: 284<br> | BPM: 284<br> | ||
Length: 1:44<br> | Length: 1:44<br> | ||
Movie: | Movie: [[Takehiro Nojiri|NOZZY]]<br> | ||
First Music Game Appearance: [[AC GF6DM5|GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX & drummania 5thMIX]]<br> | First Music Game Appearance: [[AC GF6DM5|GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX & drummania 5thMIX]]<br> | ||
Other Music Game Appearances: | Other Music Game Appearances: | ||
* [[AC GFDM XG|GuitarFreaksXG & DrumManiaXG]] | * [[AC GFDM XG|GuitarFreaksXG & DrumManiaXG]] | ||
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** A dance remix of Pomp and Circumstance, titled [[Kaze no kanata ni|風のかなたに]], appears in [[CS DDR MARIO|DanceDanceRevolution with MARIO]]. | ** A dance remix of Pomp and Circumstance, titled [[Kaze no kanata ni|風のかなたに]], appears in [[CS DDR MARIO|DanceDanceRevolution with MARIO]]. | ||
* In the GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX & drummania 5thMIX location tests, an instrumental version of 正論 was used. Vocals for the song were later added to the final release of the games. | * In the GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX & drummania 5thMIX location tests, an instrumental version of 正論 was used. Vocals for the song were later added to the final release of the games. | ||
** | ** Percussion Freaks also uses this instrumental version. | ||
* 正論 is the first song of Ai Suzuki's Seiron (正論) series. | * 正論 is the first song of Ai Suzuki's Seiron (正論) series. | ||
* A long version of 正論, titled ''正論 (Full Version)'', appears on the | * A long version of 正論, titled ''正論 (Full Version)'', appears on the [[GUITARFREAKS & drummania VOCAL COLLECTION]] album. | ||
== Trivia == | == Trivia == | ||
{{Gallery}} | |||
* 正論 marks the debut of Ai Suzuki in BEMANI. | * 正論 marks the debut of Ai Suzuki in BEMANI. | ||
* 正論 is available in GuitarFreaksXG & DrumManiaXG as an unlockable song in | * 正論's title translates to "A sound/just argument". | ||
* The girl and dog from 正論's video, as well as cosmo and vitamin, the girl and dog from [[Sotto.|そっと。]]'s video, make a cameo in [[Souhaku|蒼白]]'s video, appearing as silhouettes. | |||
* Official Christmas and New Year's themed artworks of the characters from 正論's video were on the GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX & drummania 5thMIX official website for a limited time from late December 2001 to early January 2002, as evidenced by the [https://web.archive.org/web/20150507163225/http://www.konami.jp/am/guitar/guitar6/what/what.html site updates page] (archived). However, they are currently lost and cannot be viewed today. | |||
** The Christmas-themed artwork was remade into a mobile wallpaper in late 2003, available for download through the KONAMI NET DX service. | |||
* 正論 is available in GuitarFreaksXG & DrumManiaXG as an unlockable song in JukeBox #3 (September 29th, 2010). | |||
** As of November 26th, 2010, it has been automatically unlocked into Standard Mode. | |||
* 正論 was supposed to appear in the cancelled game [[Cancelled Games#Karaoke Revolution BEMANI series selection|カラオケレボリューション BEMANIシリーズセレクション]]. | * 正論 was supposed to appear in the cancelled game [[Cancelled Games#Karaoke Revolution BEMANI series selection|カラオケレボリューション BEMANIシリーズセレクション]]. | ||
* 正論 (CLASSIC) could be unlocked in [[AC GD EXCHAIN|GITADORA EXCHAIN]] as one of the ''GF&DM CHRONICLE'' 1999～2002 songs from March 7th, 2019, by playing seven credits. | |||
** In [[AC GD NEX+AGE|GITADORA NEX+AGE]], it could be unlocked from March 15th to June 21st, 2020 and from October 28th to November 29th, 2020 as part of the ''Thank you! GITADORA 21st kanshasai'' (サンキュー! ギタドラ21st感謝祭) event. | |||
*** It could also be unlocked from July 8th to August 2nd, 2020 and from December 2nd, 2020 to January 3rd, 2021 as part of the ''GITADORA wo tomodachi to issho ni play shiyou!! Campaign'' (GITADORAを友達と一緒にプレーしよう!!キャンペーン). | |||
** As of [[AC GD FUZZ-UP|GITADORA FUZZ-UP]], it is available by default. | |||
== Song Production Information == | == Song Production Information == | ||
=== Hideyuki Ono === | |||
The chorus of this song is a cover of one of my favorite songs, Elgar's "Pomp and Circumstance". The melody line is beautiful. I've always wanted to cover a classical song in a punk style, with solid bass and guitar, solid horns, and vocals on top of it. The singing melody is a difficult line with a wide range of notes, but Ai Suzuki sang it with great sharpness. | |||
=== Musician's Room 3 === | |||
Did you read the [https://web.archive.org/web/20150507163221fw_/http://www.konami.jp/am/guitar/sd3/column/column_02.html Seiron interview] in the Column section? If you haven't, please read it. The chorus is the march song "Pomp and Circumstance" / Elgar. Actually, "Pomp and Circumstance" has been used in various commercials. But it doesn't have a punk version anywhere else. Until now. The original song is relaxing and the sound of the orchestra is very pleasant. | |||
== Video Production Information == | == Video Production Information == | ||
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== Difficulty & Notecounts == | == Difficulty & Notecounts == | ||
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania difficulty rated from 1 to 99 from GUITARFREAKS 5thMIX & drummania 4thMIX onwards.<br> | |||
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania XG and GITADORA difficulty rated from 0.00 to 9.99. (Ratings obtained from Konami official game websites and [http://bemaniwiki.com/ BEMANIWiki 2nd] and [[GITADORA Rating Sources]].) | |||
=== GuitarFreaks & DrumMania === | === GuitarFreaks & DrumMania === | ||
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[[Category:Songs]] | [[Category:Songs]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:GuitarFreaks & DrumMania Songs]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:GuitarFreaks & DrumMania XG & GITADORA Songs]] | ||
Latest revision as of 02:50, 11 September 2024
正論
Song Information
Artist: 鈴木愛
Composition: Hideyuki Ono, Elgar
Arrangement/Trumpet/Drum Programming: Hideyuki Ono
Lyrics/Vocals: Ai Suzuki
Guitar/Bass: Des-ROW
Tenor Saxophone/Trombone: Jimmy Weckl
Recording Engineer (Vocals): Miho Toyoda
Recording Engineer (Horns): Yuei Uematsu
BPM: 284
Length: 1:44
Movie: NOZZY
First Music Game Appearance: GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX & drummania 5thMIX
Other Music Game Appearances:
Lyrics
Game Size
Japanese
どう思われてるかなんてこコトが 微妙に怖いと思った こんな風に時を無駄にして 水溜りを蹴散らしてく 空は今より澄み渡って 僕は夢の後 君の足跡ただ背負って 場所に慣れてゆく 共鳴できる仲間を 置き忘れたり 明日越える橋の予感に 惑わされてる 憂鬱さをとり乱し 明日も疲れ顔です やるべきことに追い立てられ 休むことも無く ありきたりの毎日から 横にそれている こうありたいと願った 理想の壁に 思い切り叩きつけた 自分があった 何も知らないフリをして 明日は自由が道へ
Romaji
dou omowareteru ka nante ko koto ga bimyou ni kowai to omotta konnafuuniji wo muda ni shite mizu tamari wo kechirashiteku sora wa ima yori sumiwatatte boku wa yume no ato kimi no ashiato tada seotte basho ni narete yuku kyoumei dekiru nakama wo okiwasuretari ashita koeru hashi no yokan ni madowasareteru yuutsusa wo tori midashi ashita mo tsukare gaodesu yarubeki koto ni oitaterare yasumu koto mo naku ariki tari no mainichi kara yoko ni sorete iru kou aritai to negatta risou no kabe ni omoikiri tatakitsuketa jibun ga atta nani mo shiranai furi wo shite ashita wa jiyuu ga michi e
Long Version
Japanese
どう思われるかなんて事が ビミョーに怖いと思った こんな風に時を無駄にして 水たまりを蹴散らしてく 空は今より澄み渡って ボクは夢の跡 君の足跡ただ背負って 場所に慣れてゆく ここに名を残すなんて事は 期待もしてない事だった 誰の記憶に残らずとも あるがままにと願った やるべき事に追いたてられ 休む事もなく ありきたりの毎日から 横にそれている 共鳴できる仲間を 置き忘れたり 明日越える橋の予感に 惑わされてる 憂鬱さを取り乱し 明日も疲れ顔です 明日を夢見てる君の瞳に ボクはどう映る かすみゆくボクのこの手で 何一つつかめず こうありたいと願った 理想の壁に 思いきりたたきつけた 自分があった 何も知らないふりをして 明日も自由が道へ 正しいと信じた ボクの行くべき道 認めたくなかった 自分の為に 歩かずにはいられなく 生きせかされる 逃げることは許されず 進むばかりで 戸惑いを見透かされても ボクらは笑い顔です |
Song Connections / Remixes
- 正論 is an arrangement of Edward Elgar's Op.39 (Pomp and Circumstance Marches), March No.1 in D.
- 威風堂々 ~チュートリアルより~ from REFLEC BEAT limelight is also a re-arrangement of this song.
- A dance remix of Pomp and Circumstance, titled 風のかなたに, appears in DanceDanceRevolution with MARIO.
- In the GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX & drummania 5thMIX location tests, an instrumental version of 正論 was used. Vocals for the song were later added to the final release of the games.
- Percussion Freaks also uses this instrumental version.
- 正論 is the first song of Ai Suzuki's Seiron (正論) series.
- A long version of 正論, titled 正論 (Full Version), appears on the GUITARFREAKS & drummania VOCAL COLLECTION album.
Trivia
- This song has different backgrounds, banners, jackets, or other related images. For more information, please see this page.
- 正論 marks the debut of Ai Suzuki in BEMANI.
- 正論's title translates to "A sound/just argument".
- The girl and dog from 正論's video, as well as cosmo and vitamin, the girl and dog from そっと。's video, make a cameo in 蒼白's video, appearing as silhouettes.
- Official Christmas and New Year's themed artworks of the characters from 正論's video were on the GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX & drummania 5thMIX official website for a limited time from late December 2001 to early January 2002, as evidenced by the site updates page (archived). However, they are currently lost and cannot be viewed today.
- The Christmas-themed artwork was remade into a mobile wallpaper in late 2003, available for download through the KONAMI NET DX service.
- 正論 is available in GuitarFreaksXG & DrumManiaXG as an unlockable song in JukeBox #3 (September 29th, 2010).
- As of November 26th, 2010, it has been automatically unlocked into Standard Mode.
- 正論 was supposed to appear in the cancelled game カラオケレボリューション BEMANIシリーズセレクション.
- 正論 (CLASSIC) could be unlocked in GITADORA EXCHAIN as one of the GF&DM CHRONICLE 1999～2002 songs from March 7th, 2019, by playing seven credits.
- In GITADORA NEX+AGE, it could be unlocked from March 15th to June 21st, 2020 and from October 28th to November 29th, 2020 as part of the Thank you! GITADORA 21st kanshasai (サンキュー! ギタドラ21st感謝祭) event.
- It could also be unlocked from July 8th to August 2nd, 2020 and from December 2nd, 2020 to January 3rd, 2021 as part of the GITADORA wo tomodachi to issho ni play shiyou!! Campaign (GITADORAを友達と一緒にプレーしよう!!キャンペーン).
- As of GITADORA FUZZ-UP, it is available by default.
- In GITADORA NEX+AGE, it could be unlocked from March 15th to June 21st, 2020 and from October 28th to November 29th, 2020 as part of the Thank you! GITADORA 21st kanshasai (サンキュー! ギタドラ21st感謝祭) event.
Song Production Information
Hideyuki Ono
The chorus of this song is a cover of one of my favorite songs, Elgar's "Pomp and Circumstance". The melody line is beautiful. I've always wanted to cover a classical song in a punk style, with solid bass and guitar, solid horns, and vocals on top of it. The singing melody is a difficult line with a wide range of notes, but Ai Suzuki sang it with great sharpness.
Musician's Room 3
Did you read the Seiron interview in the Column section? If you haven't, please read it. The chorus is the march song "Pomp and Circumstance" / Elgar. Actually, "Pomp and Circumstance" has been used in various commercials. But it doesn't have a punk version anywhere else. Until now. The original song is relaxing and the sound of the orchestra is very pleasant.
Video Production Information
None.
Difficulty & Notecounts
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania difficulty rated from 1 to 99 from GUITARFREAKS 5thMIX & drummania 4thMIX onwards.
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania XG and GITADORA difficulty rated from 0.00 to 9.99. (Ratings obtained from Konami official game websites and BEMANIWiki 2nd and GITADORA Rating Sources.)
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania
Original Series
| Game | Drum | Guitar | Bass | Open | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | |
| Notecounts | 610 | 995 | 1057 | 414 | 516 | 511 | 535 | 535 | - | - | - | - |
| GF6/dm5 | 51 | 71 | 89 | 55 | 61 | 72 | N/A | N/A | - | - | - | - |
| GF7/dm6 | ↓40 | ↓64 | ↓68 | ↓28 | ↓31 | ↓44 | N/A | N/A | - | - | - | - |
| GF8/dm7 | 40 | ↓63 | ↓66 | ↑30 | ↑33 | ↑48 | 36 | 38 | - | - | - | - |
| GF9/dm8→GF/DM V2 | 40 | 63 | 66 | ↓29 | ↓32 | ↓47 | ↓35 | 38 | - | - | - | - |
| GF/DM V3→V8 | 40 | 63 | ↑72 | 29 | 32 | ↑57 | 35 | 38 | - | - | - | - |
| GITADORA EXCHAIN | 5.10 | 6.90 | 7.20 | 3.70 | 4.00 | 6.70 | 4.60 | 5.50 | - | - | - | - |
| GITADORA NEX+AGE→Present | ↑5.15 | ↑6.95 | ↑7.25 | ↑3.85 | ↑4.10 | ↑6.75 | ↑4.70 | ↑5.55 | - | - | - | - |
| GF/DM MASTERPIECE SILVER | 40 | 63 | 66 | 29 | 32 | 47 | 35 | 38 | - | - | - | - |
| コナステ GITADORA | 5.15 | 6.95 | 7.25 | 3.85 | 4.10 | 6.75 | 4.70 | 5.55 | - | - | - | - |
XG & GITADORA Series
| Game | Drum | Guitar | Bass | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Master | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Master | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Master | |
| Notecounts | 610 | 889 | 1057 | - | 379 | 516 | 516 | - | 360 | 535 | 535 | - |
| GF/DM XG→XG3 | 3.80 | 4.95 | 6.30 | - | 3.50 | 4.50 | 7.10 | - | 2.55 | 4.50 | 5.10 | - |
| GITADORA→Tri-Boost | ↑4.55 | ↑5.55 | ↑6.80 | - | ↑4.30 | ↑5.20 | ↑7.50 | - | ↑3.40 | ↑5.15 | ↑5.70 | - |
| GITADORA Tri-Boost Re:EVOLVE | ↓4.35 | ↓5.45 | ↑6.90 | - | ↓3.90 | ↓4.80 | ↓7.35 | - | ↑3.50 | ↓4.55 | ↓5.45 | - |
| GITADORA Matixx | ↑4.85 | ↑6.10 | ↑7.15 | - | ↑4.25 | ↑5.25 | ↑7.65 | - | ↑3.75 | ↑5.10 | ↑6.10 | - |
| GITADORA EXCHAIN | ↑5.20 | ↑6.45 | ↑7.40 | - | ↓4.10 | ↓5.20 | ↑7.95 | - | ↓3.55 | 5.10 | ↑6.15 | - |
| GITADORA NEX+AGE | ↑5.25 | 6.45 | 7.40 | - | 4.10 | 5.20 | ↑8.00 | - | 3.55 | ↑5.15 | ↑6.20 | - |
| GITADORA HIGH-VOLTAGE | ↑5.40 | 6.45 | 7.40 | - | ↑4.50 | ↑5.75 | ↑8.20 | - | ↑3.80 | ↑5.70 | ↑6.55 | - |
| GITADORA FUZZ-UP→Present | 5.40 | ↑6.75 | 7.40 | - | 4.50 | 5.75 | 8.20 | - | 3.80 | 5.70 | 6.55 | - |
| GITADORA (Mobile) | 4.55 | 5.55 | 6.80 | - | 4.30 | 5.20 | 7.50 | - | 3.40 | 5.15 | 5.70 | - |
| コナステ GITADORA | 5.25 | 6.45 | 7.40 | - | 4.10 | 5.20 | 8.00 | - | 3.55 | 5.15 | 6.20 | - |
| 鈴木愛's 正論 series of songs | |
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| 正論 - そっと。 - 蒼白 | |