RemyWiki

Daikenkai: Difference between revisions

Page Discussion

Daikenkai (view source)

Revision as of 04:07, 15 June 2024

1,896 bytes added ,  15 June
no edit summary
No edit summary
No edit summary
(31 intermediate revisions by 12 users not shown)
Line 14: Line 14:
Genre: HIP ROCK (ヒップロック)<br>
Genre: HIP ROCK (ヒップロック)<br>
pop'n music Character: [[Roku|六]] [6] <br>
pop'n music Character: [[Roku|六]] [6] <br>
pop'n CG design: [[Tomoko Shiono|shio]]<br>
pop'n CG designer: [[Tomoko Shiono|shio]]<br>
Movie: [[Tomochika Moroe|MORO]] (beatmania), [[Takao Yamamoto|あまも]] (GF/DM), ? (DanceDanceRevolution)<br>
Movie: [[Tomochika Moroe|MORO]] (beatmania), [[Takao Yamamoto|あまも]] (GF/DM), ? (DanceDanceRevolution)<br>
First Music Game Appearance: [[AC pnm 6|pop'n music 6]]<br>
First Music Game Appearance: [[AC pnm 6|pop'n music 6]]<br>
Line 20: Line 20:
* [[AC bm THE FINAL|beatmania THE FINAL]] / [[AC bm III THE FINAL|beatmania III THE FINAL]]
* [[AC bm THE FINAL|beatmania THE FINAL]] / [[AC bm III THE FINAL|beatmania III THE FINAL]]
* [[AC DDR EXTREME|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME]]
* [[AC DDR EXTREME|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME]]
* [[CS GD|GITADORA (Mobile)]]
* [[AC_GF9DM8|GUITARFREAKS 9thMIX & drummania 8thMIX]]
* [[AC_GF9DM8|GUITARFREAKS 9thMIX & drummania 8thMIX]]
* [[AC GFDM XG2|GuitarFreaksXG2 & DrumManiaXG2 Groove to Live]]
* [[AC GFDM XG2|GuitarFreaksXG2 & DrumManiaXG2 Groove to Live]]
* [[CS GFDM V|GuitarFreaks V & DrumMania V CS]]
* [[AC RB groovin'!! Upper|REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper]]
* [[AC RB groovin'!! Upper|REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper]]
* [[CS RB plus|REFLEC BEAT plus]] BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS PACK 03
* [[CS RB plus|REFLEC BEAT plus]] BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS PACK 03
Line 106: Line 104:
* 大見解 is the first song in the HIP ROCK series of songs.
* 大見解 is the first song in the HIP ROCK series of songs.
* A long version of 大見解, titled ''大見解（長っ)'', appears on the [[pop'n music Vocal Best 3]] CD. This version is the basis for '''大見解 (LONG)''' in pop'n music 9.
* A long version of 大見解, titled ''大見解（長っ)'', appears on the [[pop'n music Vocal Best 3]] CD. This version is the basis for '''大見解 (LONG)''' in pop'n music 9.
* The DanceDanceRevolution series use a shorter version of 大見解.
* The DanceDanceRevolution series uses a shorter version of 大見解, removing 4 measures from the intro.
* A different arrangement of 大見解 by Des-ROW・組スペシアルr, titled ''大見解コア'', appears on Des-ROW's first album, [[D.]].
* A different arrangement of 大見解 by Des-ROW・組スペシアルr, titled ''大見解コア'', appears on Des-ROW's first album, [[D.]].
* A remix of 大見解 by [[Takehiko Fujii|CALF]], titled [[Daikenkai no shinkenkai|大見解の新見解]], can be found in [[AC pnm 16|pop'n music 16 PARTY♪]].
* A remix of 大見解 by [[Takehiko Fujii|CALF]], titled [[Daikenkai no shinkenkai|大見解の新見解]], can be found in [[AC pnm 16|pop'n music 16 PARTY♪]].
* 大見解 appears as part of the ''PM SUPER BEST すぺしゃるメドレー'', a medley by [[Tsugumi Kataoka]] that can be found on the ''pop'n music SUPER BEST BOX'' compilation album.
* 大見解 appears as part of the ''PM SUPER BEST すぺしゃるメドレー'', a medley by [[Tsugumi Kataoka]] that can be found on the ''pop'n music SUPER BEST BOX'' compilation album.
* A cover of 大見解 by [[Reiji Sakurai]] was uploaded to his [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wn1bc5owRI YouTube channel].


== Trivia ==
== Trivia ==
{{Gallery}}
{{Gallery}}
* 大見解 marks ALPHA's debut in BEMANI.
* 大見解 marks ALPHA's debut in BEMANI.
** 大見解 being crossed over also marks their first appearance in the DanceDanceRevolution series.
*** Both 大見解 and [[BE LOVIN]] being crossed over also mark Osamu Migitera's first appearance in that series.
* "Roku" (六) is Japanese for "six".
* "Roku" (六) is Japanese for "six".
** According to shio, his name was coined by pop'n music director [[Hajime Saito|saito]] (who also points the pun of "roku" with "rock").
** According to shio, his name was coined by pop'n music director [[Hajime Saito|saito]] (who also points the pun of "roku" with "rock").
* According to [[Chihiro Inoue|chihiro]]'s song comments for [[Daikenkai no shinkenkai|大見解の新見解]], she joined KONAMI shortly after 大見解 was completed.
* Before [[AC pnm 8|pop'n music 8]], in [[CS pnm 6|pop'n music 6 CS]], and in the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解's artist is shown as '''Des-ROW feat. TSUBOI for ALPHA'''.
* Before [[AC pnm 8|pop'n music 8]], in [[CS pnm 6|pop'n music 6 CS]], and in the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解's artist is shown as '''Des-ROW feat. TSUBOI for ALPHA'''.
** In the beatmania / beatmania III series, 大見解 is credited to '''Des-ROW'''.
** In the beatmania / beatmania III series, 大見解 is credited to '''Des-ROW'''.
* In beatmania THE FINAL, 大見解's BPM in the song selection screen is not displayed.
* Unused songlist graphics for 大見解 appear in [[AC GF8DM7|GUITARFREAKS 8thMIX & drummania 7thMIX]], nine months before its first appearance in the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania series.
* Unused songlist graphics for 大見解 appear in [[AC GF8DM7|GUITARFREAKS 8thMIX & drummania 7thMIX]], nine months before its first appearance in the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania series.
* 大見解 (LONG)is a hidden song in pop'n music 9. To unlock it;  
* 大見解 (LONG) is a hidden song in pop'n music 9. To unlock it;  
** Play any Des-ROW song for STAGE 1, with the number 6 appearing at least six times on score, max combo, GREATs, GOODs, and BADs.
** Play any Des-ROW song for STAGE 1, with the number 6 appearing at least six times on score, max combo, GREATs, GOODs, and BADs.
** 大見解 (LONG) will then be playable on STAGE 2.
** 大見解 (LONG) will then be playable on STAGE 2.
* 大見解 (LONG) lost its subtitle in [[AC pnm 11|pop'n music 11]]. Since that game, it is simply known as '''大見解'''.
* 大見解 (LONG) lost its subtitle in [[AC pnm 11|pop'n music 11]]. Since that game, it is simply known as '''大見解'''.
* In the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解 received a unique video (different from the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video) in [[CS DDR EXTREME2|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2]]. This video was carried to the arcade releases in [[AC DDR SuperNOVA|DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA]].
* In the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解 received a unique video (different from the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video) in [[CS DDR EXTREME2|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2]]. This video was carried to the arcade releases in [[AC DDR SuperNOVA|DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA]].
** This video is played full-screen and eliminates any on-screen dancers.
** This video is played full-screen and eliminates any on-screen dancers prior to [[AC DDR WORLD|DanceDanceRevolution WORLD]].
** 六 appears in 大見解's DanceDanceRevolution video.
* In [[CS DDR ULTRAMIX3|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3]], 大見解's title and artist were changed to '''Daikenkai''' and '''Des-ROW・UNION''', respectively.
* In [[CS DDR ULTRAMIX3|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3]], 大見解's title and artist were changed to '''Daikenkai''' and '''Des-ROW・UNION''', respectively.
** It also received a Double BEGINNER chart in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3.
** It also received a Double BEGINNER chart in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3.
* 大見解's Double CHALLENGE chart is retroactively the first chart to be rated Level 14 in the DanceDanceRevolution series.
* 大見解 received a brand-new EX chart in pop'n music 16 PARTY♪. This chart uses a short version of HIP ROCK LONG (which was removed in the same pop'n music game).
* 大見解 received a brand-new EX chart in pop'n music 16 PARTY♪. This chart uses a short version of HIP ROCK LONG (which was removed in the same pop'n music game).
** It received a different EX chart in [[CS pnm portable 2|pop'n music portable 2]]. This chart is exclusive to portable 2, and has never appeared in an arcade pop'n music title.
** It received a different EX chart in [[CS pnm portable 2|pop'n music portable 2]]. This chart is exclusive to portable 2, and has never appeared in an arcade pop'n music title.
*** This chart uses the original 大見解 audio, instead of the one received in 16 PARTY♪.
*** This chart uses the original 大見解 audio, instead of the one received in 16 PARTY♪.
* 大見解 received an EASY chart in [[AC pnm SP|pop'n music Sunny Park]], replacing its old 5-Buttons chart.
* 大見解 received an EASY chart in [[AC pnm Sunny Park|pop'n music Sunny Park]], replacing its old 5-Buttons chart.
* 大見解 is one of the songs featured on the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ5TWNGBqiA BEMANI SONGS ～Best of pop'n music～] video.
* 大見解 is one of the songs featured on the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ5TWNGBqiA BEMANI SONGS ～Best of pop'n music～] video.
* 大見解 could be unlocked in REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper as part of the 3rd Set (Des-ROW's SELECTION) of the ''BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS'' unlocking system.
* 大見解 could be unlocked in REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper as part of the 3rd Set (Des-ROW's SELECTION) of the ''BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS'' unlocking system.
Line 138: Line 141:
** In [[AC RB VOLZZA 2|REFLEC BEAT VOLZZA 2]], it was playable by default.
** In [[AC RB VOLZZA 2|REFLEC BEAT VOLZZA 2]], it was playable by default.
* 大見解 received a new jacket in the REFLEC BEAT series, based on its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video (however, it is different from its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania jacket).
* 大見解 received a new jacket in the REFLEC BEAT series, based on its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video (however, it is different from its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania jacket).
* 大見解コア was performed at the ''BEMANI ROCK FES'16'' concert in 2016.
* After being removed from the initial release of [[AC RB Reflesia|REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア]], 大見解 was revived on June 29th, 2017.
* After being removed from the initial release of [[AC RB Reflesia|REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア]], 大見解 was revived on June 29th, 2017.
* 大見解 appears on KONAMI's mobile rhythm game ''ダンキラ!!! - Boys, be DANCING! -''.
* 大見解 appears on KONAMI's mobile rhythm game ''ダンキラ!!! - Boys, be DANCING! -''.
* 大見解 is one of the BEMANI cassette tape songs hidden in ''METAL GEAR SURVIVE''.
** In ''METAL GEAR SURVIVE'', 大見解's title and artist were changed to '''DAIKENKAI''' and '''Des-ROW United''', respectively.


== Music Comment ==
== Music Comment ==
Line 149: Line 155:
Fusing rock and rap together with Japanese lyrics, "DAIKENKAI" is unlike any other song in the DanceDanceRevolution series.<br>
Fusing rock and rap together with Japanese lyrics, "DAIKENKAI" is unlike any other song in the DanceDanceRevolution series.<br>
Its unique style and sound not only produces one of the most memorable and fun songs in the game, but the tricky dance steps and exciting tempo changes will have you always coming back for more.
Its unique style and sound not only produces one of the most memorable and fun songs in the game, but the tricky dance steps and exciting tempo changes will have you always coming back for more.
=== beatmania ===
==== Des-ROW ====
As you know, I made this song for pop'n quite a while ago, uhhe.<br>
I love this song uhe, and I especially love how the lyrics and hard riffs tie together uhehe.<br>
The song's exploding ferocity feels really good to someone like me uhe.<br>
The part where the song speeds up is especially amazing uheuhe.


== Character Information ==
== Character Information ==
Line 163: Line 176:
pop'n music difficulty rated from 1 to 43 through pop'n music 20 fantasia, and 1 to 50 from Sunny Park onwards.<br>
pop'n music difficulty rated from 1 to 43 through pop'n music 20 fantasia, and 1 to 50 from Sunny Park onwards.<br>
REFLEC BEAT to groovin'!! Upper difficulty rated from 1 to 10+, 1 to 13 in VOLZZA/VOLZZA 2, and 1 to 15 in 悠久のリフレシア.<br>
REFLEC BEAT to groovin'!! Upper difficulty rated from 1 to 10+, 1 to 13 in VOLZZA/VOLZZA 2, and 1 to 15 in 悠久のリフレシア.<br>
ポップンリズミン difficulty rated from 1 to 10. (Ratings and notecounts obtained from [http://kani.no.coocan.jp/bm/bm.htm KANI KANI CRAB], [http://www.bemaniwiki.com BEMANIWiki 2nd], [http://www.drummania.org/database-dm8.html Drum Mania Database], and [http://popnfever.s21.xrea.com/popn06/popn6.html Pop'n Music Fever.])
ポップンリズミン difficulty rated from 1 to 10. (Ratings and notecounts obtained from [http://kani.no.coocan.jp/bm/bm.htm KANI KANI CRAB], [http://www.bemaniwiki.com BEMANIWiki 2nd], [http://www.drummania.org/database-dm8.html Drum Mania Database], [http://popnfever.s21.xrea.com/popn06/popn6.html Pop'n Music Fever], and [[GITADORA Rating Sources]].)


=== beatmania ===
=== beatmania ===
Line 180: Line 193:
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2 / Dancing Stage Max|1|3|6|8|8|3|5|8|9}}
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2 / Dancing Stage Max|1|3|6|8|8|3|5|8|9}}
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3|N/A|3|6|8|N/A|3|5|8|N/A}}
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3|N/A|3|6|8|N/A|3|5|8|N/A}}
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution GRAND PRIX|4|4|8|12|13|5|8|13|14}}
}}
}}


Line 199: Line 213:
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA Tri-Boost Re:EVOLVE|&darr;2.90|&darr;4.85|&darr;6.10|-|3.25|&darr;4.30|&darr;5.15|-|&darr;3.00|&darr;4.05|&darr;4.90|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA Tri-Boost Re:EVOLVE|&darr;2.90|&darr;4.85|&darr;6.10|-|3.25|&darr;4.30|&darr;5.15|-|&darr;3.00|&darr;4.05|&darr;4.90|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA Matixx|&darr;2.85|&uarr;5.05|&uarr;6.30|-|&uarr;3.75|&uarr;4.85|&uarr;5.55|-|&uarr;3.45|&uarr;4.45|&uarr;5.30|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA Matixx|&darr;2.85|&uarr;5.05|&uarr;6.30|-|&uarr;3.75|&uarr;4.85|&uarr;5.55|-|&uarr;3.45|&uarr;4.45|&uarr;5.30|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA EXCHAIN&rarr;Present|&darr;2.40|&uarr;5.35|&uarr;6.70|-|&darr;3.60|&darr;4.75|&darr;5.50|-|&darr;3.20|&darr;4.20|&darr;5.25|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA EXCHAIN|&darr;2.40|&uarr;5.35|&uarr;6.70|-|&darr;3.60|&darr;4.75|&darr;5.50|-|&darr;3.20|&darr;4.20|&darr;5.25|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA NEX+AGE|&uarr;2.45|5.35|&uarr;6.75|-|3.60|&uarr;4.80|&uarr;5.55|-|&uarr;3.25|&uarr;4.25|5.25|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA HIGH-VOLTAGE&rarr;FUZZ-UP|&darr;2.20|5.35|&darr;6.70|-|&uarr;3.90|&uarr;5.25|&uarr;5.90|-|&uarr;3.40|&uarr;4.65|&uarr;5.65|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA GALAXY WAVE&rarr;Present|&uarr;2.40|5.35|6.70|-|3.90|5.25|5.90|-|3.40|4.65|5.65|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA (Mobile)|3.30|5.20|6.25|-|3.25|4.85|5.75|-|3.10|4.60|5.55|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA (Mobile)|3.30|5.20|6.25|-|3.25|4.85|5.75|-|3.10|4.60|5.55|-}}
{{GFDM XG Chart|コナステ GITADORA|2.45|5.35|6.75|-|3.60|4.80|5.55|-|3.25|4.25|5.25|-}}
}}
}}


Line 210: Line 228:
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 6|12|27|34|-|※26|-}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 6|12|27|34|-|※26|-}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 7|&darr;9|27|34|-|※26|-}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 7|&darr;9|27|34|-|※26|-}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 8|-|27|34|-|'''21'''|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 8|&uarr;14|27|34|-|'''21'''|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 9|&uarr;12|27|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 9|&darr;12|27|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 10&rarr;14 FEVER!|&darr;10|&darr;24|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 10&rarr;14 FEVER!|&darr;10|&darr;24|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 15 ADVENTURE|10|&uarr;26|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 15 ADVENTURE|10|&uarr;26|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 16 PARTY♪&rarr;20 fantasia|10|26|34|'''39'''|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 16 PARTY♪&rarr;20 fantasia|10|26|34|'''39'''|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music Sunny Park&rarr;Present|※'''11'''|32|40|45|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music Sunny Park&rarr;Present|※'''11'''|32|40|45|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 5 CS|?|20|29|-|-|-}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 5 CS|13|20|29|-|-|-}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 6 CS|12|27|34|-|-|-}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 6 CS|12|27|34|-|-|-}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 8 CS|9|27|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 8 CS|9|27|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 12 いろは CS|10|24|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 12 いろは CS|10|24|34|-|21|26}}
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music Lively|※'''11'''|32|40|45|-|-}}
}}
}}


Line 266: Line 285:
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Songs]]
[[Category:Beatmania Songs]]
[[Category:Beatmania Songs]]
[[Category:DDR Songs]]
[[Category:DanceDanceRevolution Songs]]
[[Category:DDR Songs with Unique Videos]]
[[Category:DanceDanceRevolution Songs with Unique Videos]]
[[Category:GFDM Songs]]
[[Category:GuitarFreaks & DrumMania Songs]]
[[Category:GFDM XG & GITADORA Songs]]
[[Category:GuitarFreaks & DrumMania XG & GITADORA Songs]]
[[Category:pop'n music Songs]]
[[Category:pop'n music Songs]]
[[Category:pop'n music 6 Songs]]
[[Category:pop'n music 6 Songs]]
Retrieved from "https://remywiki.com/Special:MobileDiff/433133...642308"