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* There are two new songs on the [http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/reflec/reflesia/p_pre/index.html REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア location test site] page by world sequence and OSTER Project, somebody could add them on this wiki? -[[User:Cystial|Cystial]] ([[User talk:Cystial|talk]]) 14:16, 18 November 2016 (UTC) | * There are two new songs on the [http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/reflec/reflesia/p_pre/index.html REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア location test site] page by world sequence and OSTER Project, somebody could add them on this wiki? -[[User:Cystial|Cystial]] ([[User talk:Cystial|talk]]) 14:16, 18 November 2016 (UTC) | ||
* The official English translation should be "REFLEC BEAT Everlasting Refresia" since this name shows on [http://p.eagate.573.jp/game/kac6th/detail.html?id=reflecbeat&lang=en 6th kac site] ? -[[User:kamayuji|kamayuji]] ([[User talk:kamayuji|talk]]) 5:39, 14 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Equivalence of the difficulty scales == | == Equivalence of the difficulty scales == | ||
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* The new song showed off in the stream looks like a mid-to-high 11 on the old scale. It was rated a 13. | * The new song showed off in the stream looks like a mid-to-high 11 on the old scale. It was rated a 13. | ||
edit: deleted my ideas. actual equivalences: | |||
* 1-4 is insultingly easy | |||
* 5-12 roughly corresponds to 3-10 | |||
* 13 is up to the mid 11s | |||
* 14 is higher 11s and lower 12s | |||
* 15 is higher 12s and 13s | |||
--totally not by [[User:MENDES|MENDES]] ([[User talk:MENDES|talk]]) 12:47, 18 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
== Old songs == | == Old songs == | ||
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**** If this list is anything to go by, [[SOUND VOLTEX IV HEAVENLY HAVEN]] is going to lose a LOT of licenses on release. I wouldn't be surprised if up to 50 or so EXIT TUNES licenses get the axe. --[[User:Tsuyoshi-kun|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Tsuyoshi-kun|talk]]) 09:20, 3 December 2016 (UTC) | **** If this list is anything to go by, [[SOUND VOLTEX IV HEAVENLY HAVEN]] is going to lose a LOT of licenses on release. I wouldn't be surprised if up to 50 or so EXIT TUNES licenses get the axe. --[[User:Tsuyoshi-kun|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Tsuyoshi-kun|talk]]) 09:20, 3 December 2016 (UTC) | ||
***** Konami is still very close with EXIT TUNES if the new Sound Holic album is anything to go by (technically with Ryu being one of the big men behind ET I doubt that is ever going to happen at this point, not to mention Konami nowadays relies on ET for various releases and live events). Those license removals might be due to chart issues. SDVX4 had no reported removals at loctest iirc --[[User:UBerserker|UBerserker]] ([[User talk:UBerserker|talk]]) 10:15, 3 December 2016 (UTC) | ***** Konami is still very close with EXIT TUNES if the new Sound Holic album is anything to go by (technically with Ryu being one of the big men behind ET I doubt that is ever going to happen at this point, not to mention Konami nowadays relies on ET for various releases and live events). Those license removals might be due to chart issues. SDVX4 had no reported removals at loctest iirc --[[User:UBerserker|UBerserker]] ([[User talk:UBerserker|talk]]) 10:15, 3 December 2016 (UTC) | ||
****** KONAMI also had a deal with TOSHIBA-EMI in the earlier DDR days. That didn't stop KONAMI from axing all previous Dancemania licenses in DDRMAX - only a little more than a dozen of which got revived in EXTREME. (Ironically, a lot of the license removals in Reflesia were Ryu's album songs. Monetary issues perhaps?) --[[User:Tsuyoshi-kun|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Tsuyoshi-kun|talk]]) 08:43, 6 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
******* I don't think it's about money, EXIT TUNES' stuff should be generally way cheaper than the rest of licenses (ET will try to sneak in at every opportunity, they're on Sega games too). A lot of people strongly believe it's for charting reasons (they want to add White Hard charts to every single license that didn't get in but there wasn't enough time to cover all games' licenses before release; plus some songs of VOLZZA require complete re-charting due to the slide note going away). I seriously doubt there are licensing issues because if you'd consider a removal list this big there would be already announcements about other games losing Exit Tunes licenses. Unless Konami did some sudden classic bullshit thing it would be dumb of them constantly relying on EXIT TUNES for live parties and releases (and for hundreds of licenses and related contests) with a limited-time deal. Most of the old RB licenses that made it in got White Hard charts (besides, some EXIT TUNES songs still made it in on Reflesia, like Luckgakist, Yi-er fanclub and Ama no jyaku; if the entire deal died those songs wouldn't have made it in either) --[[User:UBerserker|UBerserker]] ([[User talk:UBerserker|talk]]) 10:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
******* I should note that Ryu*'s licensed songs were typically unlockable on their respective REFLEC BEAT games, so I would not be surprised to see them later on Reflesia Mode. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 14:15, 6 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
* With the 23 Konami originals recently revived (along with approximately 20 more each month), are we going to cover them on the Reflesia main page, or stick to individual song pages? --[[User:ArrowsAndBeats|ArrowsAndBeats]] ([[User talk:ArrowsAndBeats|talk]]) 21:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
** I'd say make a separate page with the revivals --totally not by [[User:MENDES|MENDES]] ([[User talk:MENDES|talk]]) 01:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
** Yes, I'm currently working on a subpage with the revivals. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 02:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
*** Added 10 revivals to Dec. 18th, 2019 update ([https://p.eagate.573.jp/game/reflec/reflesia/p/information/index.html#info109 Link]), one from Private BEMANI Academy. --[[User:VR0|VR0]] ([[User talk:VR0|talk]]) 01:57, 18 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
= THE FINAL = | |||
Confirmed not to be at 7th KAC, after a long time with no updates. I was thinking of adding a commented out "final REFLEC release" in the page, but IDK if that's okay --totally not by [[User:MENDES|MENDES]] ([[User talk:MENDES|talk]]) 12:45, 18 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
* The game is still getting updates. --[[User:UBerserker|UBerserker]] ([[User talk:UBerserker|talk]]) 12:49, 18 October 2017 (UTC) | |||
== A note about the new song lists == | |||
Looking at that removal table, the game is starting to lose songs that debuted in it. Should the grayed out variation be used for those? --[[User:Thunderbird|Thunderbird]] ([[User talk:Thunderbird|talk]]) 02:57, 15 October 2019 (UTC) | |||
* Done. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 04:54, 20 October 2019 (UTC) | |||