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As far as buying controllers, there are a few options:
As far as buying controllers, there are a few options:


''Konami Controller'' - An official controller by Konami, runs for about $90 from most online retailers. The keys are spaced correctly, but the turntable is smaller and closer to the keys. The keys are switchable so that you can emulate both the first and second player sides. People have problems with sticky keys, but you can mod your controller to get around these problems.
''Konami Controller'' - An official controller by Konami, runs for about $90 from most online retailers. The keys are spaced correctly, but the turntable is smaller and closer to the keys. The keys are switchable so that you can emulate both the first and second player sides. People have problems with sticky keys, but you can mod your controller using cardboard to get around these problems.


''American Controller'' - Also made by Konami, this controller comes bundled with the American [[CS_USA|beatmania]], which usually costs $60 or so for the game and controller. It has some slight differences from the Japanese controller mentioned above; most are cosmetic, but it is worth noting that the buttons are curved outwards, and are therefore much less prone to sticking. However, the buttons also have a larger "throw" than the KOC's, meaning that they have further to travel before they register a press. Though it comes bundled with the American beatmania, this controller is fully compatible with the Japanese versions of IIDX.
''American Controller'' - Also made by Konami, this controller comes bundled with the American [[CS_USA|beatmania]], which these days usually costs $40 or so for the game and controller, depending on the retailer. It has some slight differences from the Japanese controller mentioned above; most are cosmetic, but it is worth noting that the buttons are significantly redesigned and the traditional "plunger" design has been completely replaced, and are therefore much less prone to sticking. This controller is leaps and bounds better than an unmodded KOC, though KOCs can more easily be modded to a player's exact preference in terms of key travel distance by adding or removing layers of cardboard. Though it comes bundled with the American beatmania, this controller is fully compatible with the Japanese versions of IIDX.


''Rave Discman'' - Don't buy one. The price is attractive, but frankly, it's not all that great. For one, the keys are the wrong shape and are not spaced correctly. It's better to hold out for a Konami controller. It's possible to use a Rave Discman as a base for your own ASC, which some people on the forums have done. Take note this controller also has some voltage issues which could fry PS2->USB convertors that you might use.
''Rave Discman'' - Don't buy one. The price is attractive, but frankly, it's not all that great. For one, the keys are the wrong shape and are not spaced correctly. It's better to hold out for a Konami controller. It's possible to use a Rave Discman as a base for your own ASC, which some people on the forums have done. Take note this controller also has some voltage issues which could fry PS2->USB convertors that you might use.


''Konami ASC'' - The official arcade-style controller by Konami. It's huge, it's pricey, and for some, it's worth it. The price tag is quite hefty, but with arcade perfect dimensions, clicking keys, and switchable from first player to 2nd player, lots of people have purchased them. Expect to pay around $450 when all is said and done.
''Konami ASC'' - The official arcade-style controller by Konami. It's huge, it's pricey, and for some, it's worth it. The price tag is quite hefty, but with arcade perfect dimensions, clicking keys, and switchable from first player to 2nd player, lots of people have purchased them. Expect to pay around $350-400 when all is said and done.


''Third-Party ASC'' - two controller makers well-known in the Pop'n Music community have both started producing ASC-like controllers for IIDX.
''Third-Party ASC'' - two controller makers well-known in the Pop'n Music community have both started producing ASC-like controllers for IIDX.