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 * There are a number of videos of people playing the arcade game where it does not count combo.
 * There are also a number of videos of people running 5th in MAME where it does count combo.
+** This leads me to believe that there might be a DIP switch that controls the combo counter?
 * The PS1 port does not count combo.
 I can't figure out what to make of this. --[[User:FSX|FSX]] ([[User talk:FSX|talk]]) 15:59, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
+== Findings ==
+Hi! It appears that your last user contribution was in 2019, so I'm not sure whether you're still an active user on RemyWiki. Regardless, if you read this, here are my findings:
+* <s>I could not find any videos hosted on YouTube that show a combo counter while someone is playing the arcade version of beatmania 5thMIX.</s>
+** <s>Are you sure that the videos you saw that had a combo counter were indeed for 5thMIX? Are you sure that they weren't for completeMIX 2, which has an almost identical interface but does have the combo counter?</s>
+*** <s>If you are positive that it was indeed 5thMIX, can you provide a link to a video that definitively shows it to be 5thMIX and not completeMIX 2?</s>
+** '''Update:''' I did another search for videos (using <code>beatmania 5thmix basic</code> as the search string), and I went way further down in the results this time. I managed to find videos that show a combo counter in both AC and CS:
+*** AC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IGzc_uLL78
+*** CS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ-beCSYVic
+* According to [http://kani.no.coocan.jp/bm/set.htm the page on Kani's beatmania website that lists the DIP switch settings for the arcade games], there is no setting related to combo in any of the games.
+* There does not appear to be any undumped, undocumented, or unreleased version of 5thMIX that contains a <s>combo counter, nor</s> DIP switch setting for it.
+* <s>You are correct in that the PS1 port does not count combo.</s>
+** '''Update:''' The PS1 port does count combo, but not in all modes. See the description below for more details.
+I hope these findings help resolve your confusion. --[[User:Calpisco|Calpisco]] ([[User talk:Calpisco|talk]]) 00:32, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
+== Follow-Up Research and New Findings ==
+Hi to anyone who reads this. I am here today with minor embarrassment, but more importantly with new, accurate information about 5thMIX.<br><br>
+''The following information applies to both the AC and CS versions of 5thMIX:''
+* BASIC mode has a combo counter during gameplay, and shows your max combo on the song results screen.
+* HARD mode and EXPERT mode both do not have a combo counter during gameplay, nor do they show anything related to combo on the song results screen.
+* EXPERT mode has the PGREAT judgment (i.e. "Flashing GREATs") during gameplay and counts the total on the results screen, and is the only mode to do so.
+** Here is a YouTube video that shows the PGREAT judgment in an EXPERT course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLGQDSxjpw
+''The following information applies to only the AC version of 5thMIX:''
+* After personally checking the available DIP switch settings in MAME, as well as the DIP SWITCH TEST screen in the game's test menu, I saw no switches or settings related to combo.
+** I did this for revision JA-A, but I believe this likely applies to all known, existing revisions and variants of AC 5thMIX.<br><br>
+I feel more confident this time in the research I did, and believe it will stand up to scrutiny. Ultimately, I hope these new findings resolve your confusion, mine, and that of anyone else who reads this! --[[User:Calpisco|Calpisco]] ([[User talk:Calpisco|talk]]) 02:13, 29 September 2021 (UTC)