User talk:Miz

Heartbeat

Hey, I noticed you added lyrics to Heartbeat (about five months ago, but still). Did you do them by ear, or did you get them from somewhere? -JD 01:21, 11 Nov 2005 (EST)

Man, it's been so long I don't remember. Probably a combination of the two. (edit, later) Well, this matches almost exactly the copy that's floating around the Internet. I didn't trust one word in there, but listening on better headphones it could go either way. If someone has a lyrics sheet for this ... *shrugs* -Miz 17:21, 20 Nov 2005 (EST)

I was listening to the long version, where it sounded pretty clear. If you want, I can show you. -JD 18:13, 20 Nov 2005 (EST)

Lyrics

Today I fixed lyrics for six songs. I'm not really complaining, since at least I *can* thanks to this being a wiki. Still, I'd rather, say, add more production info. (Well, that's all I do here, really ... ) Inaccurate lyrics have been with fandoms forever. I wish that weren't the case, and statistically, bad lyrics are going to propogate. However, I have a few suggestions.

• Don't put lyrics you're not sure of on the main article page. If you have to put question marks after words as an indication that you're not sure that that word really is that word, it's not ready to go on the main page. An article's Talk page is probably a great place to put anything you're not sure of.
• Try to do some sort of sanity checking. At least don't put sounds that don't occur in Japanese in your Japanese romanized lyrics. It's really best to just use the version that appears in the liner notes, though, which brings us to ...
• Try not to publish lyrics that don't have some sort of authoratative source, especially if they're really not clear. Probably the two worst possible offenders for this are murmur twins and NO DOUBT GET LOUD (anything by ASLETICS, really). You get different interpretations from different people, and if we tried to authoratively state the ONE TRUE LYRICS for songs like these, we'd have edit wars. (Well, not really, 'coz the VJ ARMY crowd really doesn't tend itself to that sort of thing, but you get what I'm saying.) Obviously this isn't a hard litmus test or anything, but exercise some discretion. Anime Lyrics is not authoratative; they've published plenty of bad romanizations in the past. The Bemani Lyrics Database is not authoratative; they have really good intentions, but it's hard to take seriously a site that accepts HELL SCAPER lyrics. If it really is clear or common knowledge, that's different.

I'm sorry this sounds so whiny and bitchy, but it's been a pet peeve of mine for years. LYRICS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, heh.

Miz 17:25, 20 Nov 2005 (EST)