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May I have the source of your reading? I know Yukari makes more sense but the reading I provided is taken directly from the game file. I am aware that the game file isn’t always correct as I found one that is misspelled before, but I would believe the game file for now unless you got the reading directly from the composers themselves. --[[User:Printspike|Spike!]] ([[User talk:Printspike|talk]]) 07:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC) | May I have the source of your reading? I know Yukari makes more sense but the reading I provided is taken directly from the game file. I am aware that the game file isn’t always correct as I found one that is misspelled before, but I would believe the game file for now unless you got the reading directly from the composers themselves. --[[User:Printspike|Spike!]] ([[User talk:Printspike|talk]]) 07:36, 21 September 2018 (UTC) | ||
: I didn't check the files in HDD at all, but this track is a Toho doujin track related to Yukari Yakumo("八雲 紫" in kanji), and Yukari's name is specified in the Toho games. What's more, I have never heard that a Toho player or fans read "八雲 紫" as "Shi Yakumo", that's all.<br>I don't think we can modify what the authorities have identified, even if the HDD data is different from it, we should follow the original settings. --[[User:YEokkwang| | : I didn't check the files in HDD at all, but this track is a Toho doujin track related to Yukari Yakumo("八雲 紫" in kanji), and Yukari's name is specified in the Toho games. What's more, I have never heard that a Toho player or fans read "八雲 紫" as "Shi Yakumo", that's all.<br>I don't think we can modify what the authorities have identified, even if the HDD data is different from it, we should follow the original settings. --[[User:YEokkwang|Yeokkwang FOREVER]] ([[User talk:YEokkwang|talk]]) 08:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC) | ||
: Also, in game readings can be wrong (see: the various ways they spelled "RoughSketch" in REFLEC) --totally not by [[User:MENDES|MENDES]] ([[User talk:MENDES|talk]]) 08:16, 21 September 2018 (UTC) | : Also, in game readings can be wrong (see: the various ways they spelled "RoughSketch" in REFLEC) --totally not by [[User:MENDES|MENDES]] ([[User talk:MENDES|talk]]) 08:16, 21 September 2018 (UTC) | ||
* I know that the song is related to Yukari Yakumo so reading 紫 as Yukari makes sense (as I stated before). The thing is that the reading in the game file is likely submitted by the composers themselves. The reason why I think like that is that other songs also have obscure readings that the game file (supposedly) know how to read. I don't even have to go anywhere for an example. 幻想曲 in this song's title is read as "fantasia" in the game file. I did see 幻想曲 read as fantasia before (maybe you too) but how else are you supposed to know that it doesn't read as "gensoukyoku". Also, a counterargument to the RoughSketch thing is that this is a very different situation. This song is a contest song which probably requires the composer to submit everything, as opposed to RoughSketch commissioned songs which I don't think he needs to submit the reading of his own name every time hence the inconsistency. --[[User:Printspike|Spike!]] ([[User talk:Printspike|talk]]) 18:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC) | * I know that the song is related to Yukari Yakumo so reading 紫 as Yukari makes sense (as I stated before). The thing is that the reading in the game file is likely submitted by the composers themselves. The reason why I think like that is that other songs also have obscure readings that the game file (supposedly) know how to read. I don't even have to go anywhere for an example. 幻想曲 in this song's title is read as "fantasia" in the game file. I did see 幻想曲 read as fantasia before (maybe you too) but how else are you supposed to know that it doesn't read as "gensoukyoku". Also, a counterargument to the RoughSketch thing is that this is a very different situation. This song is a contest song which probably requires the composer to submit everything, as opposed to RoughSketch commissioned songs which I don't think he needs to submit the reading of his own name every time hence the inconsistency. --[[User:Printspike|Spike!]] ([[User talk:Printspike|talk]]) 18:17, 21 September 2018 (UTC) | ||
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Here, "紫" represents neither phonetic nor color, so it can only express the pronunciation of name and a name of japanese can never have '''ONLY ONE KANA'''.<br> | Here, "紫" represents neither phonetic nor color, so it can only express the pronunciation of name and a name of japanese can never have '''ONLY ONE KANA'''.<br> | ||
Besides, I doubt that a toho doujin composer will make such mistakes.<br> | Besides, I doubt that a toho doujin composer will make such mistakes.<br> | ||
Please don't look at the contents of semi-phonetic scripts with the idea of pure phonetic scripts. It's quite normal for "a word to have multiple pronunciations and each pronunciation corresponds to different meanings" in such languages as Japanese, Korean and Chinese. Depending on the circumstances, the specific pronunciation must not be exactly the same.--[[User:YEokkwang| | Please don't look at the contents of semi-phonetic scripts with the idea of pure phonetic scripts. It's quite normal for "a word to have multiple pronunciations and each pronunciation corresponds to different meanings" in such languages as Japanese, Korean and Chinese. Depending on the circumstances, the specific pronunciation must not be exactly the same.--[[User:YEokkwang|Yeokkwang FOREVER]] ([[User talk:YEokkwang|talk]]) | ||