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== Licensing issues == | == Licensing issues == | ||
* Although you said Classroom Edition were able to include those songs since CS songs work differently, wouldn't that mean MAKE A JAM and that other song featuring those very same vocal samples were able to be featured on ULTRAMIX 2 and GOLD CS respectively bc of those console licensing differences? (since those addtional info about those 2 songs were removed since you stated those songs appeared on those games, despite the reasoning behind your changes on the Classroom Edition info). EDIT: I know you said US licensing but CS applies as well, INFINITAS for example, and the 4th MIX CS songlist. I also think MAKE A JAM! which appears in Pocket Edition, was included in the japanese release of the aforementioned game prior to it revival in REFLEC BEAT, and Kind Lady was still in arcade releases when CLassroom Edition came out (2013 was CE's release date and Kind Lady got cut in late 2014 or 15) - SR 2019 | * Although you said Classroom Edition were able to include those songs since CS songs work differently, wouldn't that mean MAKE A JAM and that other song featuring those very same vocal samples were able to be featured on ULTRAMIX 2 and GOLD CS respectively bc of those console licensing differences? (since those addtional info about those 2 songs were removed since you stated those songs appeared on those games, despite the reasoning behind your changes on the Classroom Edition info). EDIT: I know you said US licensing but CS applies as well, INFINITAS for example, and the 4th MIX CS songlist. I also think MAKE A JAM! which appears in Pocket Edition, was included in the japanese release of the aforementioned game prior to it revival in REFLEC BEAT, and Kind Lady was still in arcade releases when CLassroom Edition came out (2013 was CE's release date and Kind Lady got cut in late 2014 or 15) - SR 2019 | ||
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*** Aside from a vague tweet made by U1-ASAMI, there's nothing that's been said about MAKE A JAM being involved in any kind of licensing issue. The voices are samples, unlike Matsuri JAPAN and Kind Lady, which involve actual people's voices (hence their now removal from the series). The lack of revival probably came from no one playing it, or Konami not caring for the song. We don't know 100% for sure. | |||
*** Any song involving a commission vocalist in BEMANI can be removed at any time due to licensing. Some of the artists have a restricted amount of time their songs can be in a BEMANI title, and overall it's much cheaper for Konami to either replace the vocalist altogether, or eliminate the vocal song completely. This is why in 2008 and 2009 a LOT of vocal songs got removed from BEMANI arcade games all across the board (and why [[BeForU]] was among them - they moved to a separate record label). | |||
*** Licensing issues ARE different between Japan and North America. The US DDR games, for one, never had a deal with Toshiba-Emi, so anytime Konami licensed a Dancemania song, they would have to pay for it by the song. This is why you don't see a lot of Dancemania songs in the US DDR games, and why the European Dancing Stage titles avoided them near completely outside of the Euromix arcade games. It's too much of a hassle. (Mobile games are typically a worldwide thing, hence why MAKE A JAM and such appear even in the Japanese release of Classroom Edition.) --[[User:Tsuyoshi-kun|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Tsuyoshi-kun|talk]]) 02:13, 30 May 2019 (UTC) | |||