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[https://www.yamanemichiru.com/works Yamane]'s website doesn't list op.31 叙情 as one of her songs. I know said website isn't comprehensive (i.e. [[Forever Sunshine]] is absent), but I think that maybe being grouped alongside [[Camilo Una Mendes|カミロ・ウナ・メンデス]] meant that it was a "KONAMI Kukeiha Club" slot, and that op.31 叙情 was arranged by someone else from said group? --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 15:20, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
[https://www.yamanemichiru.com/works Yamane]'s website doesn't list op.31 叙情 as one of her songs. I know said website isn't comprehensive (i.e. [[Forever Sunshine]] is absent), but I think that maybe being grouped alongside [[Camilo Una Mendes|カミロ・ウナ・メンデス]] meant that it was a "KONAMI Kukeiha Club" slot, and that op.31 叙情 was arranged by someone else from said group? --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 15:20, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
* Very possible; I've been always in the idea that it wasn't made by wac because, didn't the latter always ended up revealing his aliases back in the day? PIANO CONCERTO as a name seems generic compared to the genres of wac's songs around that time, the arrangement style differs a lot (virkato's stuff has always breather parts, op 31 has a relentless flow), lvl 10 seemed and no DPA for a song made by the guy who at that time did Sasoribi around two years ago? One thing that could explain op 31's absence from Yamane's works is because op 31 is a classical arrangement, not a new song. Song comments also mention an orchestra, so probably some multiple people were involved. Either way, the way that both op 31 and Camilo were removed in the year she left Konami (2008) is quite the big clue. All I can say is that if it was wac, most certainly we'd know about it by now for ages. --[[User:UBerserker|UBerserker]] ([[User talk:UBerserker|talk]]) 16:11, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
* Very possible; I've been always in the idea that it wasn't made by wac because, didn't the latter always ended up revealing his aliases back in the day? PIANO CONCERTO as a name seems generic compared to the genres of wac's songs around that time, the arrangement style differs a lot (virkato's stuff has always breather parts, op 31 has a relentless flow), lvl 10 seemed and no DPA for a song made by the guy who at that time did Sasoribi around two years ago? One thing that could explain op 31's absence from Yamane's works is because op 31 is a classical arrangement, not a new song. Song comments also mention an orchestra, so probably some multiple people were involved. Either way, the way that both op 31 and Camilo were removed in the year she left Konami (2008) is quite the big clue. All I can say is that if it was wac, most certainly we'd know about it by now for ages. --[[User:UBerserker|UBerserker]] ([[User talk:UBerserker|talk]]) 16:11, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Related to the speculation of who to credit for this song, this song is neither an in-house work nor a commission, but a license. It's not in Infinitas or Ultimate Mobile. The work code in JASRAC is 139-0875-8. And on the JASRAC page as of today I see all circles, indicating that JASRAC has full rights and Konami has none. Typically for a commission, such as with Y&Co for example, it is normal to see Konami keep exclusive game rights (the 2 categories on the end) but allow the artist and JASRAC to keep everything else. (Or the commission can be a full work-for-hire and Konami gets all the rights.) But in this case the full rights going to the author indicates that not only is the author external, but also that the song was produced entirely before Konami paid any money for it. So that rules out any in-house artist or Michiru Yamane. The person we're most likely looking for is a friend or professional acquaintance of a core team member. Probably someone who shares wac's love of modern classical music? Off the top of my head an entity that matches those terms could be PLEIADES PRODUCTION, who contributed ''Jupiter, the Bringer of Jollity'' to Supernova 2 around the same time. [[User:Catastrophe|Catastrophe]] ([[User talk:Catastrophe|talk]]) 08:30, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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