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== The Actual BPM Range of This Song ==
== The Actual BPM Range of This Song ==
I have analyzed all 3 charts' beat lines data of this song in HDD. And I found that the maximum BPM of this song runs at 144. However the second half part of this song is full of 24th and 36th notes and it makes this song sounds like BPM216. --[[User:Wisyuan|Wisyuan]] ([[User talk:Wisyuan|talk]]) 03:21, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I have analyzed all 3 charts' beat lines data of this song in HDD. And I found that the maximum BPM of this song runs at 144. However the second half part of this song is full of 24th and 36th notes and it makes this song sounds like BPM216. --[[User:Wisyuan|Wisyuan]] ([[User talk:Wisyuan|talk]]) 03:21, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
* I got the BPM values straight from the data. It never runs at 144 BPM. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 13:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
**So here is the data of beat line appearing time in this song's chart file. It's in <beat_data> zone.
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Line No. !! Appearing Time (ms) !! Time Interval (ms) !! BPM
|-
|1 || 1034 || 1034 || 58.0270793
|-
|2 || 2069 || 1035 || 57.97101449
|-
|3 || 3103 || 1034 || 58.0270793
|-
|4 || 4138 || 1035 || 57.97101449
|-
|5 || 5172 || 1034 || 58.0270793
|-
|6 || 6284 || 1112 || 53.95683453
|-
|7 || 7318 || 1034 || 58.0270793
|-
|8 || 8352 || 1034 || 58.0270793
|-
|9 || 9387 || 1035 || 57.97101449
|-
|10 || 10498 || 1111 || 54.00540054
|-
|11 || 11533 || 1035 || 57.97101449
|-
|12 || 12567 || 1034 || 58.0270793
|-
|13 || 13602 || 1035 || 57.97101449
|-
|14 || 14713 || 1111 || 54.00540054
|-
|15 || 15747 || 1034 || 58.0270793
|-
|16 || 16782 || 1035 || 57.97101449
|-
|17 || 17816 || 1034 || 58.0270793
|-
|18 || 19016 || 1200 || 50
|-
|19 || 20069 || 1053 || 56.98005698
|-
|20 || 21140 || 1071 || 56.02240896
|-
|21 || 22231 || 1091 || 54.99541705
|-
|22 || 23564 || 1333 || 45.01125281
|-
|23 || 24898 || 1334 || 44.97751124
|-
|24 || 26231 || 1333 || 45.01125281
|-
|25 || 26648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|26 || 27064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|27 || 27481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|28 || 27898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|29 || 28314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|30 || 28731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|31 || 29148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|32 || 29564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|33 || 29981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|34 || 30398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|35 || 30814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|36 || 31231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|37 || 31648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|38 || 32064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|39 || 32481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|40 || 32898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|41 || 33314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|42 || 33731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|43 || 34148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|44 || 34564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|45 || 34981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|46 || 35398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|47 || 35814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|48 || 36231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|49 || 36648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|50 || 37064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|51 || 37481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|52 || 37898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|53 || 38314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|54 || 38731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|55 || 39148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|56 || 39564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|57 || 39981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|58 || 40398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|59 || 40814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|60 || 41231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|61 || 41648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|62 || 42064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|63 || 42481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|64 || 42898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|65 || 43314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|66 || 43731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|67 || 44148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|68 || 44564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|69 || 44981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|70 || 45398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|71 || 45814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|72 || 46231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|73 || 46648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|74 || 47064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|75 || 47481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
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|-
|77 || 48314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|78 || 48731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|79 || 49148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|80 || 49564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|81 || 49981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|82 || 50398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|83 || 50814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|84 || 51231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|85 || 51648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|86 || 52064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|87 || 52481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|88 || 52898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|89 || 53314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|90 || 53731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|91 || 54148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|92 || 54564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|93 || 54981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|94 || 55398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|95 || 55814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|96 || 56231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|97 || 56648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|98 || 57064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|99 || 57481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|100 || 57898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|101 || 58314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|102 || 58731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|103 || 59148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|104 || 59564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|105 || 59981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|106 || 60398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|107 || 60814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|108 || 61231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|109 || 61648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|110 || 62064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|111 || 62481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|112 || 62898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|113 || 63314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|114 || 63731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|115 || 64148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|116 || 64564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|117 || 64981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|118 || 65398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|119 || 65814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|120 || 66231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|121 || 66648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|122 || 67064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|123 || 67481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|124 || 67898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|125 || 68314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|126 || 68731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|127 || 69148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|128 || 69564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|129 || 69981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|130 || 70398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|131 || 70814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|132 || 71231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|133 || 71648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|134 || 72064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|135 || 72481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|136 || 72898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|137 || 73314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|138 || 73731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|139 || 74148 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|140 || 74564 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|141 || 74981 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|142 || 75398 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|143 || 75814 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|144 || 76231 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|145 || 76648 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|146 || 77064 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|147 || 77481 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|148 || 77898 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|149 || 78314 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|150 || 78731 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|151 || 79150 || 419 || 143.1980907
|-
|152 || 79576 || 426 || 140.8450704
|-
|153 || 80031 || 455 || 131.8681319
|-
|154 || 80485 || 454 || 132.1585903
|-
|155 || 80926 || 441 || 136.0544218
|-
|156 || 81368 || 442 || 135.7466063
|-
|157 || 81809 || 441 || 136.0544218
|-
|158 || 82225 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|159 || 82642 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|160 || 83059 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|161 || 83475 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|162 || 83892 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|163 || 84309 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|164 || 84725 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|165 || 85142 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|166 || 85559 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|167 || 85975 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|168 || 86392 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|169 || 86809 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|170 || 87225 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|171 || 87642 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|172 || 88059 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|173 || 88475 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|174 || 88892 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|175 || 89309 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|176 || 89725 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|177 || 90142 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|178 || 90559 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|179 || 90975 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|180 || 91392 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|181 || 91809 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
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|-
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|-
|184 || 93059 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
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|-
|186 || 93892 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|187 || 94321 || 429 || 139.8601399
|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
|195 || 97703 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|196 || 98120 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
|205 || 101946 || 468 || 128.2051282
|-
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|-
|207 || 102914 || 484 || 123.9669421
|-
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|-
|209 || 103882 || 484 || 123.9669421
|-
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|-
|211 || 104850 || 484 || 123.9669421
|-
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|-
|213 || 105716 || 425 || 141.1764706
|-
|214 || 106132 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
|215 || 106549 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|216 || 106966 || 417 || 143.8848921
|-
|217 || 107382 || 416 || 144.2307692
|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|-
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|}
It seems have no place runs at 216. I don't know where the HDD have a place that directly storage the BPM data. Please tell me if you know that. --[[User:Wisyuan|Wisyuan]] ([[User talk:Wisyuan|talk]]) 14:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
* <event_data> has the BPM info. Check the <value __type="s64"> line on the events with <type __type="s32">0</type>. I've checked these values with other songs with known BPM and it is the most accurate. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 14:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
**Maybe this song is a very strange case. I've checked some other songs' data and most of the songs I've checked have corresponding bar line data from <beat_data> and BPM change data from <event_data>. --[[User:Wisyuan|Wisyuan]] ([[User talk:Wisyuan|talk]]) 15:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:28, 23 January 2020

The Actual BPM Range of This Song

I have analyzed all 3 charts' beat lines data of this song in HDD. And I found that the maximum BPM of this song runs at 144. However the second half part of this song is full of 24th and 36th notes and it makes this song sounds like BPM216. --Wisyuan (talk) 03:21, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

  • I got the BPM values straight from the data. It never runs at 144 BPM. --FinalOffset (talk) 13:54, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
    • So here is the data of beat line appearing time in this song's chart file. It's in <beat_data> zone.
Line No. Appearing Time (ms) Time Interval (ms) BPM
1 1034 1034 58.0270793
2 2069 1035 57.97101449
3 3103 1034 58.0270793
4 4138 1035 57.97101449
5 5172 1034 58.0270793
6 6284 1112 53.95683453
7 7318 1034 58.0270793
8 8352 1034 58.0270793
9 9387 1035 57.97101449
10 10498 1111 54.00540054
11 11533 1035 57.97101449
12 12567 1034 58.0270793
13 13602 1035 57.97101449
14 14713 1111 54.00540054
15 15747 1034 58.0270793
16 16782 1035 57.97101449
17 17816 1034 58.0270793
18 19016 1200 50
19 20069 1053 56.98005698
20 21140 1071 56.02240896
21 22231 1091 54.99541705
22 23564 1333 45.01125281
23 24898 1334 44.97751124
24 26231 1333 45.01125281
25 26648 417 143.8848921
26 27064 416 144.2307692
27 27481 417 143.8848921
28 27898 417 143.8848921
29 28314 416 144.2307692
30 28731 417 143.8848921
31 29148 417 143.8848921
32 29564 416 144.2307692
33 29981 417 143.8848921
34 30398 417 143.8848921
35 30814 416 144.2307692
36 31231 417 143.8848921
37 31648 417 143.8848921
38 32064 416 144.2307692
39 32481 417 143.8848921
40 32898 417 143.8848921
41 33314 416 144.2307692
42 33731 417 143.8848921
43 34148 417 143.8848921
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45 34981 417 143.8848921
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63 42481 417 143.8848921
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65 43314 416 144.2307692
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101 58314 416 144.2307692
102 58731 417 143.8848921
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111 62481 417 143.8848921
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113 63314 416 144.2307692
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137 73314 416 144.2307692
138 73731 417 143.8848921
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140 74564 416 144.2307692
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152 79576 426 140.8450704
153 80031 455 131.8681319
154 80485 454 132.1585903
155 80926 441 136.0544218
156 81368 442 135.7466063
157 81809 441 136.0544218
158 82225 416 144.2307692
159 82642 417 143.8848921
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163 84309 417 143.8848921
164 84725 416 144.2307692
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176 89725 416 144.2307692
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179 90975 416 144.2307692
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182 92225 416 144.2307692
183 92642 417 143.8848921
184 93059 417 143.8848921
185 93475 416 144.2307692
186 93892 417 143.8848921
187 94321 429 139.8601399
188 94762 441 136.0544218
189 95203 441 136.0544218
190 95620 417 143.8848921
191 96036 416 144.2307692
192 96453 417 143.8848921
193 96870 417 143.8848921
194 97286 416 144.2307692
195 97703 417 143.8848921
196 98120 417 143.8848921
197 98536 416 144.2307692
198 98953 417 143.8848921
199 99370 417 143.8848921
200 99786 416 144.2307692
201 100203 417 143.8848921
202 100620 417 143.8848921
203 101036 416 144.2307692
204 101478 442 135.7466063
205 101946 468 128.2051282
206 102430 484 123.9669421
207 102914 484 123.9669421
208 103398 484 123.9669421
209 103882 484 123.9669421
210 104366 484 123.9669421
211 104850 484 123.9669421
212 105291 441 136.0544218
213 105716 425 141.1764706
214 106132 416 144.2307692
215 106549 417 143.8848921
216 106966 417 143.8848921
217 107382 416 144.2307692
218 107799 417 143.8848921
219 108216 417 143.8848921
220 108632 416 144.2307692
221 109049 417 143.8848921
222 109466 417 143.8848921
223 109882 416 144.2307692
224 110299 417 143.8848921
225 110716 417 143.8848921
226 111132 416 144.2307692
227 111549 417 143.8848921
228 111966 417 143.8848921
229 112382 416 144.2307692
230 112799 417 143.8848921
231 113216 417 143.8848921
232 113632 416 144.2307692
233 114049 417 143.8848921
234 114466 417 143.8848921
235 114882 416 144.2307692
236 115299 417 143.8848921
237 115716 417 143.8848921
238 116132 416 144.2307692
239 116549 417 143.8848921
240 116966 417 143.8848921
241 117382 416 144.2307692
242 117799 417 143.8848921
243 118216 417 143.8848921

It seems have no place runs at 216. I don't know where the HDD have a place that directly storage the BPM data. Please tell me if you know that. --Wisyuan (talk) 14:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

  • <event_data> has the BPM info. Check the <value __type="s64"> line on the events with <type __type="s32">0</type>. I've checked these values with other songs with known BPM and it is the most accurate. --FinalOffset (talk) 14:53, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
    • Maybe this song is a very strange case. I've checked some other songs' data and most of the songs I've checked have corresponding bar line data from <beat_data> and BPM change data from <event_data>. --Wisyuan (talk) 15:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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