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== Song Information == | == Song Information == | ||
[[Image:SOMETHING WONDERFUL.png|thumb|256px|SOMETHING WONDERFUL's banner.]] | [[Image:SOMETHING WONDERFUL.png|thumb|256px|SOMETHING WONDERFUL's banner.]] | ||
Artist: L.E.D. | Artist: L.E.D.<br> | ||
Composition/Arrangement: [[Toshiyuki Kakuta]]<br> | Composition/Arrangement: [[Toshiyuki Kakuta]]<br> | ||
Vocals: Akira Nakagawa (ANOTHER)<br> | Vocals: Akira Nakagawa (original ANOTHER only)<br> | ||
Guitar: [[Hiroyuki Togo|Togo-chef]]<br> | Guitar: [[Hiroyuki Togo|Togo-chef]]<br> | ||
BPM: 150<br> | BPM: 150<br> | ||
Length: 2:02<br> | Length: 2:02<br> | ||
Genre: EPIC TRANCE<br> | Genre: EPIC TRANCE<br> | ||
Movie: [[Hajime Yashiro|Yasi]]<br> | |||
First Music Game Appearance: [[CS 5th style|beatmania IIDX 5th style -new songs collection-]]<br> | First Music Game Appearance: [[CS 5th style|beatmania IIDX 5th style -new songs collection-]]<br> | ||
Other Music Game Appearances: | Other Music Game Appearances: | ||
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== Song Connections / Remixes == | == Song Connections / Remixes == | ||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL's original ANOTHER chart features a vocal version of the song. | * SOMETHING WONDERFUL's original ANOTHER chart features a vocal version of the song. This ANOTHER chart is credited to '''L.E.D. feat.Akira Nakagawa'''. | ||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL appears as part of [[Power 4 subTranced mix]], from [[CS DDR UNIVERSE|DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE]]. | * SOMETHING WONDERFUL appears as part of [[Power 4 subTranced mix]], from [[CS DDR UNIVERSE|DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE]]. | ||
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** SOMETHING WONDERFUL ''did'' eventually receive sung vocals (see Song Connection / Remixes above) in [[CS 6th style|beatmania IIDX 6th style -new songs collection-]], but they weren't sung by Sana. | ** SOMETHING WONDERFUL ''did'' eventually receive sung vocals (see Song Connection / Remixes above) in [[CS 6th style|beatmania IIDX 6th style -new songs collection-]], but they weren't sung by Sana. | ||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL received a new Single ANOTHER chart in beatmania IIDX 6th style -new songs collection-, a slightly modified version of the original 7KEY chart. This chart is exclusive to that game. | * SOMETHING WONDERFUL received a new Single ANOTHER chart in beatmania IIDX 6th style -new songs collection-, a slightly modified version of the original 7KEY chart. This chart is exclusive to that game. | ||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL received a new Single EXPERT chart in [[CS DDR FESTIVAL|DDR FESTIVAL -DanceDanceRevolution-]], replacing its old one. This chart was also used in [[CS DDR | * SOMETHING WONDERFUL received a new Single EXPERT chart in [[CS DDR FESTIVAL|DDR FESTIVAL -DanceDanceRevolution-]], replacing its old one. This chart was also used in [[CS DDR ULTRAMIX4|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4]] and [[CS DDR UNIVERSE|DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE]]. | ||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL appeared on mock-up screenshots of [[AC DDR SuperNOVA|DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA]]. However, it has never appeared on an arcade DanceDanceRevolution title. | |||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL appeared on mock-up screenshots of [[AC DDR SuperNOVA|DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA]]. However, it has never | * SOMETHING WONDERFUL received an updated background in [[CS DDR ULTRAMIX3|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3]]. | ||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL received an updated background in [[CS DDR | * SOMETHING WONDERFUL received proper BEGINNER charts in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4. | ||
** The Single BEGINNER chart can be found unused in the DDR FESTIVAL -DanceDanceRevolution- data. | |||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL received new graphics in DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE. | * SOMETHING WONDERFUL received new graphics in DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE. | ||
** These graphics were made by Takahiro Nakajima. | ** These graphics were made by Takahiro Nakajima. | ||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL is one of the unlockable songs of the | * SOMETHING WONDERFUL is one of the Phase 2 unlockable songs of the ''Mystery Line'' event of [[AC copula|beatmania IIDX 23 copula]]. It could be unlocked from May 26th, 2016. | ||
** It received a brand new Single ANOTHER chart with Charge Notes, and a new set of Double charts. | ** It received a brand new Single ANOTHER chart with Charge Notes, and a new set of Double charts. | ||
** In [[AC SINOBUZ|beatmania IIDX 24 SINOBUZ]], its charts can be purchased with [[AC SINOBUZ/Kinran no omamori unlocks|Kinran no omamori]] (金襴のお守り) from December 14th, 2016. | |||
** From [[AC CANNON BALLERS|beatmania IIDX 25 CANNON BALLERS]] onwards, it is available by default. | |||
* SOMETHING WONDERFUL is unlockable in [[CS INFINITAS|beatmania IIDX INFINITAS]] from May 6th, 2020, after purchasing its charts with [[CS INFINITAS/BIT unlocks|BITs]]. | |||
== Song Production Information == | == Song Production Information == | ||
=== beatmania IIDX 5th style -new songs collection- === | |||
==== Kakuta a.k.a L.E.D. ==== | |||
"What's happening now?"<br> | |||
",,,,,,, It's something wonderful." | |||
That's why it's EPIC TRANCE.<br> | |||
When people think of trance, they think about Euro, but it's part of Epic. Even around me, goa and psychedelic music are declining. Except for one person, myself. | |||
Aside from that, this EPIC TRANCE song is my first collaboration with Togo-chef.<br> | |||
I've remixed Togo-chef's songs, had him play the guitar on my tracks etc., and provided materials, but this is the first time in our long relationship that he has participated in the guitar arrangement from the production stage.<br> | |||
If I recall one year ago, he taught me various things at work, as I was a beginner who didn't understand left and right,,,, but this story is becoming long, so I'll stop. | |||
Well, halfway through production of this track, I inserted programmed guitars, but it wasn't good, and I hesitated and wondered what~to~do, so I asked Togo-chef to replace it and start from the beginning. As a result, I'm glad he was able to participate.<br> | |||
I think the addition of Togo-chef's acoustic guitar produced an indescribable, idyllic, and bright track. | |||
=== beatmania IIDX 6th style === | |||
==== L.E.D. ==== | |||
'''"What's happening now?"''' | |||
'''",,,,,,, It's something wonderful."''' | |||
That's why it's EPIC TRANCE. | |||
There's a guitar solo in the middle of this track, and my original plan was to have Sana sing this melody, but as the schedule didn't fit and I didn't have time to think of the lyrics, so I inserted the programmed guitar from the demo stage.<br> | |||
However, I felt that something was missing, perhaps as a result from my poor programming skills, so I discussed with Togo-chef for him to play live guitar this time. Furthermore, he suggested an arrangement plan for the song.<br> | |||
So, I tried to put it in the track, and yes, it feels very good! The peaceful image of the track is emphasized, which felt idyllic and bright. Thank you very much, Togo-chef! | |||
In other words, I created "SOMETHING WONDERFUL" with a relatively all right result. | |||
== Video Production Information == | == Video Production Information == | ||
=== beatmania IIDX 5th style -new songs collection- === | |||
==== Yasi ==== | |||
Well, the home of this type of music is the European and UK scene.<br> | |||
My first impression when I heard this track was "European Super Express".<br> | |||
Or rather, going through a self-thinking circuit as usual, I connected the refreshing melody to the wonderful scenery from the train window when I went to Switzerland last fall. | |||
Oh, L.E.D. makes his first appearance in the movie, being deep in thought by the window. | |||
=== beatmania IIDX 6th style === | |||
==== Yasi ==== | |||
Hello. I'm Yasi, who's in charge of the home version. | |||
Although I asked L.E.D. about the origin of this title before I created the movie, I ended up making a content that has little to do with it. Oh, this happens every time.... | |||
Since the most recent familiar home of EPIC is the UK, I tried to cram my memories of when I went to Switzerland last year, how was it? | |||
Actually, I later realized that there is a clip of a famous UK artist that is the same material as this "train window" movie, although the vehicle is differen and this is really coincidental. | |||
== Difficulty & Notecounts == | == Difficulty & Notecounts == | ||
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==== Original Charts ==== | ==== Original Charts ==== | ||
{{IIDX Chart Header| | {{IIDX Chart Header| | ||
{{IIDX Chart Notecounts|290|471|688|688|646|979|-}} | {{IIDX Chart Notecounts|290|471|688|688|-|646|979|-|-}} | ||
{{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX 5th style CS|-|4|5|-|5|6|-}} | {{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX 5th style CS|-|4|5|-|-|5|6|-|-}} | ||
{{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX 6th style CS|'''2'''|4|6|'''6'''|5|7|-}} | {{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX 6th style CS|'''2'''|4|6|'''6'''|-|5|7|-|-}} | ||
{{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX 6th style→7th style|-|4|↑6|-|5|↑7|-}} | {{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX 6th style→7th style|-|4|↑6|-|-|5|↑7|-|-}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
==== Current Charts ==== | ==== Current Charts ==== | ||
{{IIDX Chart Header| | {{IIDX Chart Header| | ||
{{IIDX Chart Notecounts|-|471 / 0|688 / 0|1003 / 24|458 / 0|690 / 0|1003 / 24|CN=a}} | {{IIDX Chart Notecounts|-|471 / 0|688 / 0|1003 / 24|-|458 / 0|690 / 0|1003 / 24|-|CN=a}} | ||
{{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX 23 copula→Present|-|↑6|↑8|'''10'''|'''4'''|'''8'''|'''11'''}} | {{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX 23 copula→Present|-|↑6|↑8|'''10'''|-|'''4'''|'''8'''|'''11'''|-}} | ||
{{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX ULTIMATE MOBILE|-|6|8|10|-|-|-|-|-}} | |||
{{IIDX Chart|beatmania IIDX INFINITAS|-|6|8|10|-|4|8|11|-}} | |||
}} | }} | ||
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==== ULTRAMIX Charts ==== | ==== ULTRAMIX Charts ==== | ||
{{DDR Chart Header| | {{DDR Chart Header| | ||
{{DDR Chart Notecounts| | {{DDR Chart Notecounts|- / -|195 / 86|276 / 98|354 / 137|- / - / -|195 / 86|276 / 82|354 / 137|- / - / -}} | ||
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX / Dancing Stage Unleashed DLC|-| | {{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX / Dancing Stage Unleashed DLC|-|4|5|7|-|4|5|8|-}} | ||
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX2 / Dancing Stage Unleashed2 DLC| | {{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX2 / Dancing Stage Unleashed2 DLC|⁂N/A|4|5|7|-|4|5|8|-}} | ||
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3 DLC| | {{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3 DLC|⁂N/A|4|5|7|-|4|5|8|-}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
⁂ Denotes that no proper chart data actually exists. | |||
==== FESTIVAL Charts ==== | ==== FESTIVAL Charts ==== | ||
{{DDR Chart Header| | {{DDR Chart Header| | ||
{{DDR Chart Notecounts|117 / 0|195 / 86|276 / 98|422 / 44|- / - / -|195 / 86|276 / 82|354 / 137|- / - / -}} | {{DDR Chart Notecounts|117 / 0|195 / 86|276 / 98|422 / 44|- / - / -|195 / 86|276 / 82|354 / 137|- / - / -}} | ||
{{DDR Chart|DDR FESTIVAL| | {{DDR Chart|DDR FESTIVAL|⁑N/A|3|5|'''8'''|-|4|5|8|-}} | ||
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4 DLC|N/A|3|5|7|-|4|5|8|-}} | |||
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution / Dancing Stage UNIVERSE|N/A|3|5|7|-|4|5|8|-}} | {{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution / Dancing Stage UNIVERSE|N/A|3|5|7|-|4|5|8|-}} | ||
}} | }} | ||
⁑ Denotes chart is unused and cannot be accessed through normal gameplay. | |||
Other charts not shown on the above table: | |||
* DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4 Double BEGINNER chart: Total notes: 117 / 0. | |||
{{Mystery Line}} | {{Mystery Line}} | ||
[[Category:Songs]] | [[Category:Songs]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:DanceDanceRevolution Songs]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:DanceDanceRevolution CS Exclusives]] | ||
[[Category:beatmania IIDX Songs]] | |||
[[Category:IIDX Songs]] | [[Category:beatmania IIDX Songs with Unique Title Cards]] | ||
[[Category:IIDX Songs with Unique Title Cards]] | [[Category:beatmania IIDX Songs with Unique Videos]] | ||
[[Category:IIDX Songs with Unique Videos]] | |||
[[Category:Songs that sound different between difficulties]] | [[Category:Songs that sound different between difficulties]] | ||
Revision as of 19:04, 11 May 2024
SOMETHING WONDERFUL
Song Information
Artist: L.E.D.
Composition/Arrangement: Toshiyuki Kakuta
Vocals: Akira Nakagawa (original ANOTHER only)
Guitar: Togo-chef
BPM: 150
Length: 2:02
Genre: EPIC TRANCE
Movie: Yasi
First Music Game Appearance: beatmania IIDX 5th style -new songs collection-
Other Music Game Appearances:
- beatmania IIDX 6th style
- DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX Song Pack #02
Lyrics
None yet.
Song Connections / Remixes
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL's original ANOTHER chart features a vocal version of the song. This ANOTHER chart is credited to L.E.D. feat.Akira Nakagawa.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL appears as part of Power 4 subTranced mix, from DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE.
Trivia
- The train featured in SOMETHING WONDERFUL's video is a French TGV Atlantique trainset. L.E.D.'s logo also imitates the old TGV logo.
- The man seen sitting by the window of the train in the middle of the video is actually L.E.D. himself.
- According to L.E.D., SOMETHING WONDERFUL was supposed to have sung lyrics by Sana originally. The guitar solo in the middle of the song was put in its place.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL did eventually receive sung vocals (see Song Connection / Remixes above) in beatmania IIDX 6th style -new songs collection-, but they weren't sung by Sana.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL received a new Single ANOTHER chart in beatmania IIDX 6th style -new songs collection-, a slightly modified version of the original 7KEY chart. This chart is exclusive to that game.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL received a new Single EXPERT chart in DDR FESTIVAL -DanceDanceRevolution-, replacing its old one. This chart was also used in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4 and DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL appeared on mock-up screenshots of DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA. However, it has never appeared on an arcade DanceDanceRevolution title.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL received an updated background in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL received proper BEGINNER charts in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4.
- The Single BEGINNER chart can be found unused in the DDR FESTIVAL -DanceDanceRevolution- data.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL received new graphics in DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE.
- These graphics were made by Takahiro Nakajima.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL is one of the Phase 2 unlockable songs of the Mystery Line event of beatmania IIDX 23 copula. It could be unlocked from May 26th, 2016.
- It received a brand new Single ANOTHER chart with Charge Notes, and a new set of Double charts.
- In beatmania IIDX 24 SINOBUZ, its charts can be purchased with Kinran no omamori (金襴のお守り) from December 14th, 2016.
- From beatmania IIDX 25 CANNON BALLERS onwards, it is available by default.
- SOMETHING WONDERFUL is unlockable in beatmania IIDX INFINITAS from May 6th, 2020, after purchasing its charts with BITs.
Song Production Information
beatmania IIDX 5th style -new songs collection-
Kakuta a.k.a L.E.D.
"What's happening now?"
",,,,,,, It's something wonderful."
That's why it's EPIC TRANCE.
When people think of trance, they think about Euro, but it's part of Epic. Even around me, goa and psychedelic music are declining. Except for one person, myself.
Aside from that, this EPIC TRANCE song is my first collaboration with Togo-chef.
I've remixed Togo-chef's songs, had him play the guitar on my tracks etc., and provided materials, but this is the first time in our long relationship that he has participated in the guitar arrangement from the production stage.
If I recall one year ago, he taught me various things at work, as I was a beginner who didn't understand left and right,,,, but this story is becoming long, so I'll stop.
Well, halfway through production of this track, I inserted programmed guitars, but it wasn't good, and I hesitated and wondered what~to~do, so I asked Togo-chef to replace it and start from the beginning. As a result, I'm glad he was able to participate.
I think the addition of Togo-chef's acoustic guitar produced an indescribable, idyllic, and bright track.
beatmania IIDX 6th style
L.E.D.
"What's happening now?"
",,,,,,, It's something wonderful."
That's why it's EPIC TRANCE.
There's a guitar solo in the middle of this track, and my original plan was to have Sana sing this melody, but as the schedule didn't fit and I didn't have time to think of the lyrics, so I inserted the programmed guitar from the demo stage.
However, I felt that something was missing, perhaps as a result from my poor programming skills, so I discussed with Togo-chef for him to play live guitar this time. Furthermore, he suggested an arrangement plan for the song.
So, I tried to put it in the track, and yes, it feels very good! The peaceful image of the track is emphasized, which felt idyllic and bright. Thank you very much, Togo-chef!
In other words, I created "SOMETHING WONDERFUL" with a relatively all right result.
Video Production Information
beatmania IIDX 5th style -new songs collection-
Yasi
Well, the home of this type of music is the European and UK scene.
My first impression when I heard this track was "European Super Express".
Or rather, going through a self-thinking circuit as usual, I connected the refreshing melody to the wonderful scenery from the train window when I went to Switzerland last fall.
Oh, L.E.D. makes his first appearance in the movie, being deep in thought by the window.
beatmania IIDX 6th style
Yasi
Hello. I'm Yasi, who's in charge of the home version.
Although I asked L.E.D. about the origin of this title before I created the movie, I ended up making a content that has little to do with it. Oh, this happens every time....
Since the most recent familiar home of EPIC is the UK, I tried to cram my memories of when I went to Switzerland last year, how was it?
Actually, I later realized that there is a clip of a famous UK artist that is the same material as this "train window" movie, although the vehicle is differen and this is really coincidental.
Difficulty & Notecounts
beatmania IIDX difficulty rated from 1 to 7+ in 5th through 7th style, and from 1 to 12 from HAPPY SKY onwards.
DanceDanceRevolution difficulty rated from 1 to 10 from DDRMAX2 to SuperNOVA2. (Ratings and notecounts obtained from BEMANIWiki 2nd and TexTage.)
beatmania IIDX
Original Charts
| Game | SP Difficulty | DP Difficulty | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| BEGINNER | NORMAL | HYPER | ANOTHER | LEGGENDARIA | NORMAL | HYPER | ANOTHER | LEGGENDARIA | |
| Notecounts | 290 | 471 | 688 | 688 | - | 646 | 979 | - | - |
| beatmania IIDX 5th style CS | - | 4 | 5 | - | - | 5 | 6 | - | - |
| beatmania IIDX 6th style CS | 2 | 4 | 6 | 6 | - | 5 | 7 | - | - |
| beatmania IIDX 6th style→7th style | - | 4 | ↑6 | - | - | 5 | ↑7 | - | - |
Current Charts
| Game | SP Difficulty | DP Difficulty | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| BEGINNER | NORMAL | HYPER | ANOTHER | LEGGENDARIA | NORMAL | HYPER | ANOTHER | LEGGENDARIA | |
| Notecounts / Charge Notes | - | 471 / 0 | 688 / 0 | 1003 / 24 | - | 458 / 0 | 690 / 0 | 1003 / 24 | - |
| beatmania IIDX 23 copula→Present | - | ↑6 | ↑8 | 10 | - | 4 | 8 | 11 | - |
| beatmania IIDX ULTIMATE MOBILE | - | 6 | 8 | 10 | - | - | - | - | - |
| beatmania IIDX INFINITAS | - | 6 | 8 | 10 | - | 4 | 8 | 11 | - |
DanceDanceRevolution
ULTRAMIX Charts
| Game | Single | Double | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Beginner | Basic | Difficult | Expert | Challenge | Basic | Difficult | Expert | Challenge | |
| Notecounts / Freeze Arrows / Shock Arrows | - / - | 195 / 86 | 276 / 98 | 354 / 137 | - / - / - | 195 / 86 | 276 / 82 | 354 / 137 | - / - / - |
| DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX / Dancing Stage Unleashed DLC | - | 4 | 5 | 7 | - | 4 | 5 | 8 | - |
| DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX2 / Dancing Stage Unleashed2 DLC | ⁂N/A | 4 | 5 | 7 | - | 4 | 5 | 8 | - |
| DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3 DLC | ⁂N/A | 4 | 5 | 7 | - | 4 | 5 | 8 | - |
⁂ Denotes that no proper chart data actually exists.
FESTIVAL Charts
| Game | Single | Double | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Beginner | Basic | Difficult | Expert | Challenge | Basic | Difficult | Expert | Challenge | |
| Notecounts / Freeze Arrows / Shock Arrows | 117 / 0 | 195 / 86 | 276 / 98 | 422 / 44 | - / - / - | 195 / 86 | 276 / 82 | 354 / 137 | - / - / - |
| DDR FESTIVAL | ⁑N/A | 3 | 5 | 8 | - | 4 | 5 | 8 | - |
| DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4 DLC | N/A | 3 | 5 | 7 | - | 4 | 5 | 8 | - |
| DanceDanceRevolution / Dancing Stage UNIVERSE | N/A | 3 | 5 | 7 | - | 4 | 5 | 8 | - |
⁑ Denotes chart is unused and cannot be accessed through normal gameplay.
Other charts not shown on the above table:
- DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4 Double BEGINNER chart: Total notes: 117 / 0.
| Mystery Line | |
|---|---|
| New Songs | AO-1 - GENERATE feat.綾倉盟 - Highcharge Divolt - NO LIMIT -オレ達に限界は無い- ギョギョっと人魚♨爆婚ブライダル - Outbreak - M4K3 1T B0UNC3 199024club -Re:BounceKiller- - X |
| BEMANI Crossovers | 明鏡止水 POSSESSION Daily Lunch Special |
| CS Crossovers and Revived Songs | Tori-no-kimochi quick master (reform version) - SOMETHING WONDERFUL OUTER LIMITS ALTERNATIVE |