Talk:Oto

The fact that this isn't under an alias makes me wonder if oto was originally going to be the only level 50 of the game and was planned before the BEMANI Sound Team thing. Despite obviously featuring wac, there is no BEMANI Sound Team listing for him for the song. It makes me wonder if he hasn't already left KONAMI and that this was his final farewell song of sorts for the pop'n music series. (Doesn't help the game that there is no proper ending animation for No NAME Colors, and they just recycled sprites once again.)

It also makes me wonder if UsaNeko was supposed to end much earlier than it did, and that pop'n 25 was probably planned or even about to begin production until the BEMANI Sound Team debacle put a grinding halt to it all. (Further reason why I think so? Only ONE new character was made for UsaNeko after the BST thing. And nearly every song added in 2018 was either from another BEMANI game, a cross-game event, or is a license. Only 10 originals came out in 2018 for UsaNeko.)

Or I could be over-analyzing this a bit too much.

Just thought I'd throw my two cents. --M.B. (talk) 14:06, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

• the whole BST affair coming out really did seem to slow down production for all games, I'll give it that. would not be surprised if wac left already, either. --totally not by MENDES (talk) 14:34, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
• I don't know what's going on with collaborations and the BST monicker. wac might have attributed the aωc alias to the vocalist to avoid the BST tag (see XIII), as his other recent non-collabs are likely the uncredited songs Vide Nostalgia and phantasmagoria. Time will tell I guess, but I think he's still with KONAMI.

I agree with Usaneko lasting longer than usual being strange, by this time you'd think that KONAMI would have at least announced a new game if they were putting little effort in Usaneko. --FinalOffset (talk) 15:08, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

• BST tag can be avoided with collaboration names or just crediting the vocalists directly (from there you can tell Initiation is just TAKA only). There's no such things as songs made before the BST switch; regardless of when they were made, they'll be under BST when released now. Neko-gekidan being BSTified was likely because the name is made up of artists' main aliases, wakhuta because it was put alongside non-BSTified inhouse names (in an old song too, for that matter, to avoid looking overly ridiculous). No one has left anything, hell Konami miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight possibly forcing employees to not leave. --UBerserker (talk) 15:28, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
  • "There's no such things as songs made before the BST switch". What about それは音楽が導く永遠の物語, which came out in December 2017, long after the BST switch, but was credited to DJ Totoriott without the BST tag? Or the CANNON BALLERS songs in the location test that were not reformatted into BST songs in the final release of the game?
    • Because that Totto song was made up of BGMs that were already released in the OST, credited under DJ Totoriott, so overall it counts as an "old" song. There's nothing weird about the CANNON BALLERS case, the songs revealed (at the loctest) before the BST switch were kept as they were. As I said, if the song was revealed post that certain October date, it would be under BST. --UBerserker (talk) 08:42, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

pop'n music holding off songs for a year or two is not something uncommon to the franchise, with some songs delayed as long as a year or two after they were finished (just two major examples: Just you wait! and 森の鼓動, written one and two years respectively before their game debuts). The Power of Nature songs has the BST tag in the Rainbow Stage while wac's song does not, and I don't think it's a stretch to assume he might have either finished the song long in advance, or he's left the company. --M.B. (talk) 22:15, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

• Konami Amusement (chiLdish cLoud = uppercase L = MarL) - I guess that's how it should be --UBerserker (talk) 07:28, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

An initial attempt to transcribe the lyrics, could anyone help out

for yawned (???)
boring god left a present from the sky

on the day which is repeat
the sky falling down
it might be good (???)

this rain had been promised for long time
this rain will wash away drifting

And everything is denied again!
And the Apocalypse Trumpets will ring!

1...2...3...4...5...6......7!

No!No!No!No!No!No!No!No!No!No!No!
No!No!No!No!No!No!No!No!No!No......
No!

right now
wash away
true and lie
past, to-come
love and hate
when the time (???)
the beginning and the end

wash away
dream and hope
smile and cry
you and me
if all disappears you will see
it will all be the same

(???) rainbow
(???) your dreams
(???) connecting you and me

--totally not by MENDES (talk) 17:50, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

• For yawned us just as looking up at the sky ??

it might be good watching it reset

this rain will wash away drifting -> this rain will wash away everything

past, to-come -> past and now

like a tune connecting you and me --Spike! (talk) 10:05, 23 October 2018 (UTC)