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== Findings == | == Findings == | ||
Hi! It appears that your last user contribution was in 2019, so I'm not sure whether you're still an active user on RemyWiki. Regardless, if you read this, here are my findings: | Hi! It appears that your last user contribution was in 2019, so I'm not sure whether you're still an active user on RemyWiki. Regardless, if you read this, here are my findings: | ||
* I could not find any videos hosted on YouTube that show a combo counter while someone is playing the arcade version of beatmania 5thMIX. | * <s>I could not find any videos hosted on YouTube that show a combo counter while someone is playing the arcade version of beatmania 5thMIX.</s> | ||
** Are you sure that the videos you saw that had a combo counter were indeed for 5thMIX? Are you sure that they weren't for completeMIX 2, which has an almost identical interface but does have the combo counter? | ** <s>Are you sure that the videos you saw that had a combo counter were indeed for 5thMIX? Are you sure that they weren't for completeMIX 2, which has an almost identical interface but does have the combo counter?</s> | ||
*** If you are positive that it was indeed 5thMIX, can you provide a link to a video that definitively shows it to be 5thMIX and not completeMIX 2? | *** <s>If you are positive that it was indeed 5thMIX, can you provide a link to a video that definitively shows it to be 5thMIX and not completeMIX 2?</s> | ||
** '''Update:''' I did another search for videos (using <code>beatmania 5thmix basic</code> as the search string), and I went way further down in the results this time. I managed to find videos that show a combo counter in both AC and CS: | |||
*** AC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IGzc_uLL78 | |||
*** CS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ-beCSYVic | |||
* According to [http://kani.no.coocan.jp/bm/set.htm the page on Kani's beatmania website that lists the DIP switch settings for the arcade games], there is no setting related to combo in any of the games. | * According to [http://kani.no.coocan.jp/bm/set.htm the page on Kani's beatmania website that lists the DIP switch settings for the arcade games], there is no setting related to combo in any of the games. | ||
* There does not appear to be any undumped, undocumented, or unreleased version of 5thMIX that contains a combo counter, nor DIP switch setting for it. | * There does not appear to be any undumped, undocumented, or unreleased version of 5thMIX that contains a <s>combo counter, nor</s> DIP switch setting for it. | ||
* You are correct in that the PS1 port does not count combo. | * <s>You are correct in that the PS1 port does not count combo.</s> | ||
** '''Update:''' The PS1 port does count combo, but not in all modes. See the description below for more details. | |||
I hope these findings help resolve your confusion. --[[User:Calpisco|Calpisco]] ([[User talk:Calpisco|talk]]) 00:32, 27 September 2021 (UTC) | I hope these findings help resolve your confusion. --[[User:Calpisco|Calpisco]] ([[User talk:Calpisco|talk]]) 00:32, 27 September 2021 (UTC) | ||
== Follow-Up Research and New Findings == | |||
Hi to anyone who reads this. I am here today with minor embarrassment, but more importantly with new, accurate information about 5thMIX.<br><br> | |||
''The following information applies to both the AC and CS versions of 5thMIX:'' | |||
* BASIC mode has a combo counter during gameplay, and shows your max combo on the song results screen. | |||
* HARD mode and EXPERT mode both do not have a combo counter during gameplay, nor do they show anything related to combo on the song results screen. | |||
* EXPERT mode has the PGREAT judgment (i.e. "Flashing GREATs") during gameplay and counts the total on the results screen, and is the only mode to do so. | |||
** Here is a YouTube video that shows the PGREAT judgment in an EXPERT course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLGQDSxjpw | |||
''The following information applies to only the AC version of 5thMIX:'' | |||
* After personally checking the available DIP switch settings in MAME, as well as the DIP SWITCH TEST screen in the game's test menu, I saw no switches or settings related to combo. | |||
** I did this for revision JA-A, but I believe this likely applies to all known, existing revisions and variants of AC 5thMIX.<br><br> | |||
I feel more confident this time in the research I did, and believe it will stand up to scrutiny. Ultimately, I hope these new findings resolve your confusion, mine, and that of anyone else who reads this! --[[User:Calpisco|Calpisco]] ([[User talk:Calpisco|talk]]) 02:13, 29 September 2021 (UTC) | |||