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* I'm fine with using CV for actors/actresses on Song Information as sometimes that is how it is credited on soundtrack/album booklets. The others yeah, I agree. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 02:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
* I'm fine with using CV for actors/actresses on Song Information as sometimes that is how it is credited on soundtrack/album booklets. The others yeah, I agree. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 02:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


== Song sample connections ==
== Please source artist confirmations/release dates, please ==


I think that we should stop listing song connections if 2 or more songs share the same vocal/synth/beat/whatever samples (except those which are intentional; I'll explain below). Recent songs (especially electronic ones) are using a lot of samples (and in a single song), most of which have been heard before. I think it's unnecessary to list all the songs that use the same sample since it unnecessarily connects the 2 or more songs. Take "somebody scream" for example: it already lists more than 10 songs currently, and there will be more in the future. Artists (I think) use samples to complete their own songs, not to make it related to Second Heaven/FIRE FIRE etc.. And also we update old song pages for that, which is getting more troublesome the more songs use a certain sample.
Please do this when adding unknown info to the wiki, please. --[[User:Tsuyoshi-kun|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Tsuyoshi-kun|talk]]) 19:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


The exceptions would be that the use is intentional. Something like "yes the whole earth" in HELL SCAPER, Sol Cosine Job 2 and HELL OR HELL. (But others, like Eagle songs, always have certain samples, i.e. 123456doit; those shouldn't count.) An artist's intention is subjective though.
== Official Wallpapers ==
With every website under konami.jp/am or konami.jp/bemani archived and so they get easier to search later on I was wondering if we could add official wallpapers to the respective songs' gallery pages? From the top of my head these seem to have had wallpapers that are pretty hard to find now:
* IIDX G2ARTS
* GFDM Calendars (V2-V6)
* GFDM Designer's Room
* Wallpapers and background movies actually existing in GFDM V and V2 OSTs --[[User:Tsugaru7reveng|t7r]] ([[User talk:Tsugaru7reveng|talk]]) 15:51, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
** Sure, go ahead. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 17:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)


TL;DR we should stop connecting songs via random samples, only intentional ones. What do you guys think? - [[User:Pointaken47|Pointaken47]] ([[User talk:Pointaken47|talk]]) 15:33, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
== Lyrics ==


* How about creating a separate page that list the samples and the songs that uses it underneath, thoughts on this? - [[User:QueenZ|QueenZ]] ([[User talk:QueenZ|talk]]) 16:48, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
Several songs (e.g. [[Keep On Liftin']], [[KEEP ON MOVIN']]) have horribly inaccurate lyrics, apparently because the source material (which isn't listed) wrote them that way. Is there any possible change that can be made so that they're not deliberately misleading? Also, should sound sample information (like with [[ECSTASY]]) be included in the Trivia section? [[User:Theroux|Theroux]] ([[User talk:Theroux|talk]]) 06:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
** I like this idea, it will help to unclog certain pages. I will work on this later today. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 16:57, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
* See [[RemyWiki:Rules]]. Lyrics should be written as they are on their respective OSTs, samples are completely avoided. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 15:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
** Done: [[Song Samples]]. Please fill in the origin of the sample, as well as more complete descriptions. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 19:59, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
: Edited the link to the rules page for clarity. [[User:Phuzion|Phuzion]] ([[User talk:Phuzion|talk]]) 20:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


== Regarding the ongoing issues at Konami/Bemani ==
== "as part of the" [music pack] ==
Some people are confused about what's happening at the Bemani department, after people figured out that Konami started to censor inhouse artists, as well as their names especially, from appearing in public media. This doesn't affect credits seen in-game at all, as it's a certain standard that Konami always meets in crappy situations like this (see MGS5).


Here's an ultra short recap of why this is happening and what it may cause:
Can we please stop doing this? It's very Engrishy. --[[User:Morning Blue|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Morning Blue|talk]]) 03:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
* '''No one knows what's happening at all''', there are two rumors flying around at the moment. Whatever it is, what happened is BAD and it is possibly if not definitely catastrophic for Bemani as a whole.
* It's a situation that has started since mid 2017 and has only gotten much worse in these October weeks, so chances that that in the future things will become better again seem very uncertain. When Konami begins to censor its employees, it means that a red line has been crossed and won't backpedal about it. The way how it's unfolding is no different than the Kojima drama.
* Artists may either leave the company permanently (not an instant process from what I know) or some of them will just be moved to another division. Given how some artists are acting differently on social media (i.e. nekomata going to play a solo piano live in a friend's restaurant), the former option seems more likely to be true due to how certain Konami employees are so restricted in what they can do.
* Some of the artists are also sound directors of games. A game without a sound director almost always ends up in a limbo state. If all artists go, everything Bemani will go limbo mode, either dead games or games themselves becoming living soulless trashcans.


Situation may become clearer and clearer with the next game updates, even though it's pretty fair to be pessimistic about it since no other similar situation at Konami ended in a positive light, not to mention they might not even lose much in revenue by shutting Bemani down as all they care about is mobile and gambling. --[[User:UBerserker|UBerserker]] ([[User talk:UBerserker|talk]]) 22:21, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
== Active/Inactive BEMANI series layout needs improvement ==
 
The layout for these sections on the main page needs to be improved; it does not look good on mobile or smaller displays. I suggest using responsive CSS flexboxes instead of HTML tables. Each box needs to have a special CSS class that contains @media rules that will adjust their widths depending on the size of the display. Contain the boxes within a <div> containing flex rules so that they break into columns nicely.
 
For example, we can have a &lt;div&gt; section with the class <span style="font-family: monospace;">.series-section</span> which nests other &lt;div&gt;s with the class <span style="font-family: monospace;">.series</span>:
 
* <span style="font-family: monospace;">'''@media (max-width: 800px)''' { div.series-section div.series { width: 100%; } }</span>
* <span style="font-family: monospace;">'''@media (max-width: 1200px)''' { div.series-section div.series { width: 50%; } }</span>
* <span style="font-family: monospace;">'''@media (max-width: 1600px)''' { div.series-section div.series { width: 33.333%; } }</span>
* <span style="font-family: monospace;">'''Default:''' div.series-section div.series { width: 25%; }</span>
 
These rules would also carry over to the mobile version of the site. An extra stylesheet may need to be implemented for this to happen, but it would make the site look much cleaner and more mobile-friendly. --[[User:RGTM|xRGTMx]] ([[User talk:RGTM|talk]]) 13:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:58, 20 February 2023

Visual Artist Pages

We could use a uniform template/layout for the VJ GYO, HES, tQy, etc. articles too. Perhaps we implement what the musician pages already have as well but instead of Composition, Arrangement, Lyrics, etc. we go with Illustration, Jacket, Overlays, etc.? Any suggestions?

--Tsugaru7reveng (talk) 14:43, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

That could work. The only problem could be the instances where two or more designers collaborated on a video/jacket. --FinalOffset (talk) 15:48, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Missing information

is there any interest in writing articles on basic info that's written on bemaniwiki but isn't anywhere to be found here? stuff like the Class Mode courses from each version, How To Win At Step-Up, QPro parts, etc. it's pretty awkward when a lot of info about IIDX is easily accessible common knowledge to the japanese playerbase but hard to find in the West unless you're really really good at interpreting google translate. I'd be willing to write about what I actually know (can't just translate and copy information over since I don't know japanese !!), I just don't know if this is a "nobody's gotten around to it" thing or if there's a specific reason it hasn't been done already. --Hyso (talk) 00:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Sure, go ahead. The more useful information, the merrier. --FinalOffset (talk) 17:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Personal Suggestion

Can we please stop using Japanese abbreviation terms like PV and CV for videos and actors/actresses on these pages, and also stop leaving links for album links in Japanese (as in, leaving the word "product page" in Japanese, as seen on this page - SYNTHESIZED2)? It makes this site look a little less unprofessional to me. But maybe I'm wrong. I'm curious what other people think on this. --M.B. (talk) 21:36, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

  • I'm fine with using CV for actors/actresses on Song Information as sometimes that is how it is credited on soundtrack/album booklets. The others yeah, I agree. --FinalOffset (talk) 02:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Please source artist confirmations/release dates, please

Please do this when adding unknown info to the wiki, please. --M.B. (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Official Wallpapers

With every website under konami.jp/am or konami.jp/bemani archived and so they get easier to search later on I was wondering if we could add official wallpapers to the respective songs' gallery pages? From the top of my head these seem to have had wallpapers that are pretty hard to find now:

  • IIDX G2ARTS
  • GFDM Calendars (V2-V6)
  • GFDM Designer's Room
  • Wallpapers and background movies actually existing in GFDM V and V2 OSTs --t7r (talk) 15:51, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Lyrics

Several songs (e.g. Keep On Liftin', KEEP ON MOVIN') have horribly inaccurate lyrics, apparently because the source material (which isn't listed) wrote them that way. Is there any possible change that can be made so that they're not deliberately misleading? Also, should sound sample information (like with ECSTASY) be included in the Trivia section? Theroux (talk) 06:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

  • See RemyWiki:Rules. Lyrics should be written as they are on their respective OSTs, samples are completely avoided. --FinalOffset (talk) 15:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Edited the link to the rules page for clarity. Phuzion (talk) 20:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

"as part of the" [music pack]

Can we please stop doing this? It's very Engrishy. --M.B. (talk) 03:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Active/Inactive BEMANI series layout needs improvement

The layout for these sections on the main page needs to be improved; it does not look good on mobile or smaller displays. I suggest using responsive CSS flexboxes instead of HTML tables. Each box needs to have a special CSS class that contains @media rules that will adjust their widths depending on the size of the display. Contain the boxes within a <div> containing flex rules so that they break into columns nicely.

For example, we can have a <div> section with the class .series-section which nests other <div>s with the class .series:

  • @media (max-width: 800px) { div.series-section div.series { width: 100%; } }
  • @media (max-width: 1200px) { div.series-section div.series { width: 50%; } }
  • @media (max-width: 1600px) { div.series-section div.series { width: 33.333%; } }
  • Default: div.series-section div.series { width: 25%; }

These rules would also carry over to the mobile version of the site. An extra stylesheet may need to be implemented for this to happen, but it would make the site look much cleaner and more mobile-friendly. --xRGTMx (talk) 13:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

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