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==Templates==
: That could work. The only problem could be the instances where two or more designers collaborated on a video/jacket. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 15:48, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
This can work for stuff like the PARANOiA and MODEL DD series, boss song sets like CARDINAL GATE, LIMIT BURST, as well as event songs (e.g. gakuen, Triple Journey songs).
This is mostly to prevent stuff like this in every article and having to edit them separately:
* PARANOiA is the first song of the long-running PARANOiA series. Other songs in the series are:
** [[PARANOiA MAX ~DIRTY MIX~]], which can be found in [[AC DDR 2nd|DanceDanceRevolution 2ndMIX]].
** [[PARANOiA KCET ~clean mix~]], which can be found in [[CS DDR 1st|DanceDanceRevolution CS]].
** [[PARANOiA MAX ~DIRTY MIX~|PARANOiA MAX (CLUB VER.)]], which can be found in [[AC DDR CLUB VER.2|DanceDanceRevolution CLUB VERSION 2]].
** [[PARANOiA Rebirth]], which can be found in [[AC DDR 3rd|DanceDanceRevolution 3rdMIX]].
** [[PARANOIA EVOLUTION]], which can be found in [[AC DDR Solo BASS|DanceDanceRevolution Solo BASS MIX]].
** The song medley, ''PARANOiA jazzy groove + [[TRIP MACHINE CLIMAX]] + [[DEAD END]]'', which can be found in ''Dance Maniax 2ndMIX''.
** [[PARANOiA ETERNAL]], which can be found in [[AC DDR 5th|DanceDanceRevolution 5thMIX]].
** [[PARANOIA survivor]], which can be found in [[AC DDR EXTREME|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME]].
** [[PARANOIA survivor MAX]], which can be found in DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME.
** [[PARANOiA -Respect-]], which can be found in [[CS DDR Party Collection|DanceDanceRevolution Party Collection]].
** [[PARANOiA ~HADES~]], which can be found in [[AC DDR SuperNOVA2|DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA2]].
** [[PARANOiA Revolution]], which can be found in [[AC DDR X3|DanceDanceRevolution X3 VS 2ndMIX]].
** [[PARANOiA (kskst mix)]], which can be found in DanceDanceRevolution X3 VS 2ndMIX.


Plus quicker access if one wants to say, go to the Elemental Creation page from STULTI's in just one click because of being gakuen songs without adding anything in the Trivia section or having to navigate through the gakuen page in itself.
== Missing information ==


Would this be okay?
is there any interest in writing articles on basic info that's written on bemaniwiki but isn't anywhere to be found here? stuff like the Class Mode courses from each version, How To Win At Step-Up, QPro parts, etc. it's pretty awkward when a lot of info about IIDX is easily accessible common knowledge to the japanese playerbase but hard to find in the West unless you're really really good at interpreting google translate. I'd be willing to write about what I actually know (can't just translate and copy information over since I don't know japanese !!), I just don't know if this is a "nobody's gotten around to it" thing or if there's a specific reason it hasn't been done already. --[[User:Hyso|Hyso]] ([[User talk:Hyso|talk]]) 00:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
* Sure, go ahead. The more useful information, the merrier. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 17:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)


--[[User:Tsugaru7reveng|Tsugaru7reveng]] ([[User talk:Tsugaru7reveng|talk]]) 17:23, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
== Personal Suggestion ==


* I think it would be nice if the song series is long enough (say, 3 or more songs). It still would be needed to include a bit of info on the Song Connections / Remixes section if the song is a direct remix of a song (i.e. that PARANOIA survivor MAX is a sped up version of PARANOIA survivor). --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 17:52, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Can we please stop using Japanese abbreviation terms like PV and CV for videos and actors/actresses on these pages, and also stop leaving links for album links in Japanese (as in, leaving the word "product page" in Japanese, as seen on this page - [[SYNTHESIZED2]])? It makes this site look a little less unprofessional to me. But maybe I'm wrong. I'm curious what other people think on this. --[[User:Tsuyoshi-kun|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Tsuyoshi-kun|talk]]) 21:36, 2 May 2016 (UTC)


== Page Error ==
* I'm fine with using CV for actors/actresses on Song Information as sometimes that is how it is credited on soundtrack/album booklets. The others yeah, I agree. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 02:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Error at http://vjarmy.com/wiki/index.php/Special:RequestAccount:


== Please source artist confirmations/release dates, please ==


Internal error
Please do this when adding unknown info to the wiki, please. --[[User:Tsuyoshi-kun|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Tsuyoshi-kun|talk]]) 19:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)


Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.
== Official Wallpapers ==
With every website under konami.jp/am or konami.jp/bemani archived and so they get easier to search later on I was wondering if we could add official wallpapers to the respective songs' gallery pages? From the top of my head these seem to have had wallpapers that are pretty hard to find now:
* IIDX G2ARTS
* GFDM Calendars (V2-V6)
* GFDM Designer's Room
* Wallpapers and background movies actually existing in GFDM V and V2 OSTs --[[User:Tsugaru7reveng|t7r]] ([[User talk:Tsugaru7reveng|talk]]) 15:51, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
** Sure, go ahead. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 17:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)


== Lyrics ==


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Several songs (e.g. [[Keep On Liftin']], [[KEEP ON MOVIN']]) have horribly inaccurate lyrics, apparently because the source material (which isn't listed) wrote them that way. Is there any possible change that can be made so that they're not deliberately misleading? Also, should sound sample information (like with [[ECSTASY]]) be included in the Trivia section? [[User:Theroux|Theroux]] ([[User talk:Theroux|talk]]) 06:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
* See [[RemyWiki:Rules]]. Lyrics should be written as they are on their respective OSTs, samples are completely avoided. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 15:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
: Edited the link to the rules page for clarity. [[User:Phuzion|Phuzion]] ([[User talk:Phuzion|talk]]) 20:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


== "as part of the" [music pack] ==


== About credired artist vs production ==
Can we please stop doing this? It's very Engrishy. --[[User:Morning Blue|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Morning Blue|talk]]) 03:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
Don't know if it has been discussed already, but there are several istances where the credited artist leave out the producer's name
<br>Why don't put both "Artist" (the one credited in game) and "Produced by" (as of song information page and other sources) in the page?<br><br>
Example here<br>
[[ANAGRAMS_I_to_Y]]


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== Active/Inactive BEMANI series layout needs improvement ==


== Linking to Wikipedia articles for licensed artists ==
The layout for these sections on the main page needs to be improved; it does not look good on mobile or smaller displays. I suggest using responsive CSS flexboxes instead of HTML tables. Each box needs to have a special CSS class that contains @media rules that will adjust their widths depending on the size of the display. Contain the boxes within a &lt;div&gt; containing flex rules so that they break into columns nicely.


This probably concerns jubeat and Reflec Beat editors more than IIDX/pop'n but... wouldn't it be a better idea to link artist names for artists that aren't directly involved with Bemani (licenses) to Wikipedia pages instead of leaving a red link there? --[[User:Sakurina|Sakurina]] 00:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
For example, we can have a &lt;div&gt; section with the class <span style="font-family: monospace;">.series-section</span> which nests other &lt;div&gt;s with the class <span style="font-family: monospace;">.series</span>:


== Adding a box (or at least links) to Reflec Beat AC titles ==
* <span style="font-family: monospace;">'''@media (max-width: 800px)''' { div.series-section div.series { width: 100%; } }</span>
* <span style="font-family: monospace;">'''@media (max-width: 1200px)''' { div.series-section div.series { width: 50%; } }</span>
* <span style="font-family: monospace;">'''@media (max-width: 1600px)''' { div.series-section div.series { width: 33.333%; } }</span>
* <span style="font-family: monospace;">'''Default:''' div.series-section div.series { width: 25%; }</span>


Ideally, we need a link to [[Reflec Beat]] and [[Reflec Beat limelight]] on the front page, or one of those fancy boxes like IIDX/pop'n does... I think [[User:Remy]] might be the only one with edit rights on the front page though and I dunno if he checks this? --[[User:Sakurina|Sakurina]] 01:43, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
These rules would also carry over to the mobile version of the site. An extra stylesheet may need to be implemented for this to happen, but it would make the site look much cleaner and more mobile-friendly. --[[User:RGTM|xRGTMx]] ([[User talk:RGTM|talk]]) 13:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 
Little problem on link of "REFLEC BEAT PLUS". I found that Sakurina created the page with name "REFLEC BEAT plus"(Official Name). But due to <u>case-sensitive</u> of name, it was not linked. And I found a redirect page with name "Reflec Beat Plus". It cannot linked with the link on the front page too. So I just moved this page with the name "REFLEC BEAT PLUS" to fit the name on the front page. Currently the link is fine. I just wonder anyone can change back that name on front page with "REFLEC BEAT plus"? I just want to ignore the redirection. --[[User:Himshunchung|Himshunchung]] 13:54, July 09, 2012 (UTC)
 
== DDRicon ==
Now that even a two-game "series" SDVX has it's own Info pages, How possible would it be to get a DDR section to the site? I'd start filling it up right away if we had one as i think DDR is kinda big deal in bemani.
 
Also that DJ Max Info is ancient and irrelevant. All the info about it can be found elsewhere, for example the similar wiki the fans of the series have started (http://www.cyphergate.net/wiki).
 
I suggest replacing the DJ Max Info with a "DDR Info" or "DDRicon" or what name would suit it the best. Also the DDR dicciculty / notecount boxes like the other games have --[[User:pallero200|Pallero200]] 15:24, 22.7.2013
 
* I agree and would like to contribute to a future DDRicon, even though it would be a big project to finish. Don't know about the DJ Max info... both things are up to Remy. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 15:05, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
* Asked Remy about both things, DDR will be added and DJ Max removed, unless someone else wants the latter to stay. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 19:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
* Alrightttt great! Gotta prepare the PS2 styles ready to fill the pre-X difficulties. Or see if bemaniwiki has older game infos. Also because DDR has pretty few main arcade releases but shitton of CS releases with all the lisence games and actual CS games having different songlist in JP/US/EU, i suggest we'd only list the arcade series for now. --[[User:pallero200|Pallero200]] 00:43, 27.7.2013
* Yeah, my plan for now is to fill the arcade releases first, and then the CS games. I think BEMANIWiki 2nd covers from SuperNOVA onwards though. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 00:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
* DDRicon is off to a great start! Some things left are that the DDR info on the main page is in the bottom, not where it's in the navigation bar. It also lacks the Release information on the Main page. Also DJ Max info hasn't been killed yet. I don't know wiki so i'm sorry if these are things i could have edited myself somehow. --[[User:Pallero200|Pallero200]] ([[User talk:Pallero200|talk]]) 18:02, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
** Done with the Main Page. DJ Max Info hasn't been removed yet because I haven't had the time to backup the info just in case. I'll probably do it later today. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 02:50, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 
== Re-term all instances of "album art" to "jacket" ==
 
Won't "jacket" sound a lot better since the songs with the square images aren't albums anyway?
i.e. see right.
[[File:JOMANDA.png|thumb|JOMANDA's jacket]]
 
Oh finally good to see it has been addressed. --[[User:Tsugaru7reveng|Tsugaru7reveng]] ([[User talk:Tsugaru7reveng|talk]]) 11:12, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 
== HinaBitter page and other pages ==
 
I think the series is big enough to deserve its own page. Anyone else agree?
 
I was also thinking of starting pages for licensed artists and music records, like EXIT TUNES. --[[User:Tsuyoshi-kun|M.B.]] ([[User talk:Tsuyoshi-kun|talk]]) 16:29, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 
* I agree, good idea. I don't know much about music records, but I'll try to contribute with whatever I know about them.
: Unrelated, but I think we should do a page listing unreleased songs, as there is no page that links most of them directly, and there are a handful of songs left. --[[User:FinalOffset|FinalOffset]] ([[User talk:FinalOffset|talk]]) 17:14, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 13:58, 20 February 2023

Visual Artist Pages

We could use a uniform template/layout for the VJ GYO, HES, tQy, etc. articles too. Perhaps we implement what the musician pages already have as well but instead of Composition, Arrangement, Lyrics, etc. we go with Illustration, Jacket, Overlays, etc.? Any suggestions?

--Tsugaru7reveng (talk) 14:43, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

That could work. The only problem could be the instances where two or more designers collaborated on a video/jacket. --FinalOffset (talk) 15:48, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Missing information

is there any interest in writing articles on basic info that's written on bemaniwiki but isn't anywhere to be found here? stuff like the Class Mode courses from each version, How To Win At Step-Up, QPro parts, etc. it's pretty awkward when a lot of info about IIDX is easily accessible common knowledge to the japanese playerbase but hard to find in the West unless you're really really good at interpreting google translate. I'd be willing to write about what I actually know (can't just translate and copy information over since I don't know japanese !!), I just don't know if this is a "nobody's gotten around to it" thing or if there's a specific reason it hasn't been done already. --Hyso (talk) 00:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

  • Sure, go ahead. The more useful information, the merrier. --FinalOffset (talk) 17:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Personal Suggestion

Can we please stop using Japanese abbreviation terms like PV and CV for videos and actors/actresses on these pages, and also stop leaving links for album links in Japanese (as in, leaving the word "product page" in Japanese, as seen on this page - SYNTHESIZED2)? It makes this site look a little less unprofessional to me. But maybe I'm wrong. I'm curious what other people think on this. --M.B. (talk) 21:36, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

  • I'm fine with using CV for actors/actresses on Song Information as sometimes that is how it is credited on soundtrack/album booklets. The others yeah, I agree. --FinalOffset (talk) 02:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Please source artist confirmations/release dates, please

Please do this when adding unknown info to the wiki, please. --M.B. (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Official Wallpapers

With every website under konami.jp/am or konami.jp/bemani archived and so they get easier to search later on I was wondering if we could add official wallpapers to the respective songs' gallery pages? From the top of my head these seem to have had wallpapers that are pretty hard to find now:

  • IIDX G2ARTS
  • GFDM Calendars (V2-V6)
  • GFDM Designer's Room
  • Wallpapers and background movies actually existing in GFDM V and V2 OSTs --t7r (talk) 15:51, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Lyrics

Several songs (e.g. Keep On Liftin', KEEP ON MOVIN') have horribly inaccurate lyrics, apparently because the source material (which isn't listed) wrote them that way. Is there any possible change that can be made so that they're not deliberately misleading? Also, should sound sample information (like with ECSTASY) be included in the Trivia section? Theroux (talk) 06:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

  • See RemyWiki:Rules. Lyrics should be written as they are on their respective OSTs, samples are completely avoided. --FinalOffset (talk) 15:09, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Edited the link to the rules page for clarity. Phuzion (talk) 20:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

"as part of the" [music pack]

Can we please stop doing this? It's very Engrishy. --M.B. (talk) 03:51, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Active/Inactive BEMANI series layout needs improvement

The layout for these sections on the main page needs to be improved; it does not look good on mobile or smaller displays. I suggest using responsive CSS flexboxes instead of HTML tables. Each box needs to have a special CSS class that contains @media rules that will adjust their widths depending on the size of the display. Contain the boxes within a <div> containing flex rules so that they break into columns nicely.

For example, we can have a <div> section with the class .series-section which nests other <div>s with the class .series:

  • @media (max-width: 800px) { div.series-section div.series { width: 100%; } }
  • @media (max-width: 1200px) { div.series-section div.series { width: 50%; } }
  • @media (max-width: 1600px) { div.series-section div.series { width: 33.333%; } }
  • Default: div.series-section div.series { width: 25%; }

These rules would also carry over to the mobile version of the site. An extra stylesheet may need to be implemented for this to happen, but it would make the site look much cleaner and more mobile-friendly. --xRGTMx (talk) 13:58, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

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