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=== Original Version === | === Original Version === | ||
[[Image:6 HIP ROCK.png|thumb|246px|大見解's pop'n music banner.]] | [[Image:6 HIP ROCK.png|thumb|246px|大見解's pop'n music banner.]] | ||
[[Image:Daikenkai.png|thumb|大見解's jacket.]] | [[Image:Daikenkai.png|thumb|大見解's DanceDanceRevolution / ポップンリズミン jacket.]] | ||
[[Image:Daikenkai GFDM.png|thumb|大見解's GuitarFreaks & DrumMania jacket.]] | [[Image:Daikenkai GFDM.png|thumb|大見解's GuitarFreaks & DrumMania jacket.]] | ||
[[Image:Daikenkai RB.png|thumb|大見解's REFLEC BEAT jacket.]] | [[Image:Daikenkai RB.png|thumb|大見解's REFLEC BEAT jacket.]] | ||
Artist: Des-ROW・組<br> | Artist: Des-ROW・組<br> | ||
Composition/Arrangement: [[Osamu Migitera]]<br> | Composition/Arrangement: [[Osamu Migitera|Des-ROW]]<br> | ||
Lyrics/Vocals: [[ALPHA]]<br> | Lyrics/Vocals: [[ALPHA|TSUBOI for ALPHA]]<br> | ||
BPM: 143-172<br> | BPM: 143-172<br> | ||
Length: 1:47 (DanceDanceRevolution), 1:54 (all other games)<br> | Length: 1:47 (DanceDanceRevolution), 1:54 (all other games)<br> | ||
Genre: HIP ROCK (ヒップロック)<br> | Genre: HIP ROCK (ヒップロック)<br> | ||
pop'n music Character: [[Roku|六]] [6] <br> | pop'n music Character: [[Roku|六]] [6] <br> | ||
pop'n CG | pop'n CG designer: [[Tomoko Shiono|shio]]<br> | ||
Movie: [[Tomochika Moroe|MORO]] (beatmania), [[Takao Yamamoto|あまも]] (GF/DM), ? (DanceDanceRevolution)<br> | Movie: [[Tomochika Moroe|MORO]] (beatmania), [[Takao Yamamoto|あまも]] (GF/DM), ? (DanceDanceRevolution)<br> | ||
First Music Game Appearance: [[ | First Music Game Appearance: [[AC pnm 6|pop'n music 6]]<br> | ||
Other Music Game Appearances: | Other Music Game Appearances: | ||
* [[AC bm THE FINAL|beatmania THE FINAL]] / [[AC bm III THE FINAL|beatmania III THE FINAL]] | * [[AC bm THE FINAL|beatmania THE FINAL]] / [[AC bm III THE FINAL|beatmania III THE FINAL]] | ||
* [[AC DDR EXTREME|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME]] | * [[AC DDR EXTREME|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME]] | ||
* [[AC_GF9DM8|GUITARFREAKS 9thMIX & drummania 8thMIX]] | * [[AC_GF9DM8|GUITARFREAKS 9thMIX & drummania 8thMIX]] | ||
* [[AC GFDM XG2|GuitarFreaksXG2 & DrumManiaXG2 | * [[AC GFDM XG2|GuitarFreaksXG2 & DrumManiaXG2 Groove to Live]] | ||
* [[ | * [[AC RB groovin'!! Upper|REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper]] | ||
* [[REFLEC BEAT | * [[CS RB plus|REFLEC BEAT plus]] BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS PACK 03 | ||
* [[ | * [[CS pnm rhythmin|ポップンリズミン]] ポップン和風パック1 | ||
=== LONG Version === | === LONG Version === | ||
[[Image:9 HIP ROCK LONG.png|thumb|242px|大見解(LONG)'s pop'n music banner.]] | [[Image:9 HIP ROCK LONG.png|thumb|242px|大見解(LONG)'s pop'n music banner.]] | ||
Artist: Des-ROW・組<br> | Artist: Des-ROW・組<br> | ||
Composition/Arrangement: | Composition/Arrangement: Des-ROW<br> | ||
Lyrics/Vocals: ALPHA<br> | Lyrics/Vocals: TSUBOI for ALPHA<br> | ||
BPM: 143-172<br> | BPM: 143-172<br> | ||
Length: 3:27<br> | Length: 3:27<br> | ||
pop'n music Genre: HIP ROCK LONG (ヒップロックLONG)<br> | pop'n music Genre: HIP ROCK LONG (ヒップロックLONG)<br> | ||
pop'n music Character: 六 [6-1P] <br> | pop'n music Character: 六 [6-1P]<br> | ||
First Music Game Appearance: [[ | First Music Game Appearance: [[AC pnm 9|pop'n music 9]]<br> | ||
Other Music Game Appearances: None | Other Music Game Appearances: None. | ||
== Lyrics == | == Lyrics == | ||
=== Japanese === | === Japanese === | ||
<pre>★回転頭からない言語 ハイテンションと固いテンポ | <pre>★回転頭からない言語 ハイテンションと固いテンポ | ||
I 先導するジャイケン5から大見解戦法 | |||
★ref | ★ref | ||
35+4÷2すらはじけぬコンパ好き達に | |||
あっさり鈍角にねじ込むさばけた音楽鬼は | |||
どっからどこまでかわからん?が音わけた理由だ | |||
どいつとこいつのしゃべくりが、垂らした汗ふきな | |||
デンダン変化つけた×電波に乗る大変馬鹿げた発言にゃ | |||
グーを作りゃ人格すら変わる程にあがる心拍数は | |||
たっぷりあこぎだが、にょい棒を握る田と力 | |||
として生まれたときから続けてきたこの遊び方 | |||
★ref | ★ref | ||
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☆3通りから4通り 本道理より煩悩に | ☆3通りから4通り 本道理より煩悩に | ||
まかせたぎりを梱包し がっつり温厚に | |||
本当にこの鈍行に またがっていればdon't worry | |||
Don Pach Don Pach Don 今日で とことん交尾する日本島に | |||
☆ref | ☆ref | ||
Don Pach Don Pach Don 今日で とことん交尾する日本島に | |||
Don Pach Don Pach Don 今日で とことん交尾する日本島に | |||
そん時そん時そんちょうし ぶち壊していくぜ見本道理だば</pre> | |||
=== Romaji === | === Romaji === | ||
<pre>★kaitentou | <pre>★kaitentou karanai gengo HIGH TENSION to katai TEMPO | ||
I sendou suru jaiken go kara daikenkai | I sendou suru jaiken go kara daikenkai senpou | ||
★ref | ★ref | ||
sanjuugo | sanjuugo PLUS yon waru ni sura hajikenu KONPA sukitachi ni | ||
assari donkaku ni | assari donkaku ni nejikomu sabaketa ongakki wa | ||
dokkara doko made | dokkara doko made ka wakaran hatena ga oto waketa wake da | ||
doitsu to koitsu no | doitsu to koitsu no shabekuri ga, tarashita asefuki na | ||
dendan henka tsuketa denpa ni noru taihen | dendan henka tsuketa batsu denpa ni noru taihen bakageta hatsuken nya | ||
guu wo | guu wo tsukurya jin kaku sura kawaru hodo ni agaru shinpakusuu wa | ||
tappuri akogi da ga, nyoi bou wo nigiru ta to chikara | |||
doushite umareta toki kara tsuzukete kita kono | doushite umareta toki kara tsuzukete kita kono asobikata | ||
★ref | ★ref | ||
★ref | ★ref | ||
☆san doori kara yon doori hon douri yori | ☆san doori kara yon doori hon douri yori bonnou ni | ||
makaseta giri wo konpoushi gattsuri onkou ni | makaseta giri wo konpoushi gattsuri onkou ni | ||
hontou ni kono donkou ni mata gatteireba don't worry | |||
Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru | Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni | ||
☆ref | ☆ref | ||
Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru | Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni | ||
Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru | Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni | ||
son toki son toki son choushi buchi | son toki son toki son choushi buchi kowashiteikuze mihon douri da ba</pre> | ||
== Song Connections / Remixes == | == Song Connections / Remixes == | ||
* 大見解 is the first song | * 大見解 is the first song of Des-ROW's HIP ROCK song series. | ||
* A long version of 大見解 appears on the | * A long version of 大見解, titled ''大見解(長っ)'', appears on the [[pop'n music Vocal Best 3]] CD. This version is the basis for '''大見解 (LONG)''' in pop'n music 9. | ||
* The DanceDanceRevolution series | * The DanceDanceRevolution series uses a shorter version of 大見解, removing 4 measures from the intro. | ||
* A different arrangement of 大見解 by Des-ROW・組スペシアルr, titled ''大見解コア'', appears on Des-ROW's first album, [[D.]]. | * A different arrangement of 大見解 by Des-ROW・組スペシアルr, titled ''大見解コア'', appears on Des-ROW's first album, [[D.]]. | ||
* A remix of 大見解 by [[Takehiko Fujii|CALF]], titled [[Daikenkai no shinkenkai|大見解の新見解]], can be found in [[ | * A remix of 大見解 by [[Takehiko Fujii|CALF]], titled [[Daikenkai no shinkenkai|大見解の新見解]], can be found in [[AC pnm 16|pop'n music 16 PARTY♪]]. | ||
* 大見解 appears as part of the ''PM SUPER BEST すぺしゃるメドレー'', a medley by [[Tsugumi Kataoka]] that can be found on the ''pop'n music SUPER BEST BOX'' compilation album. | * 大見解 appears as part of the ''PM SUPER BEST すぺしゃるメドレー'', a medley by [[Tsugumi Kataoka]] that can be found on the ''pop'n music SUPER BEST BOX'' compilation album. | ||
* A cover of 大見解 by [[Reiji Sakurai]] was uploaded to his [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wn1bc5owRI YouTube channel]. | |||
== Trivia == | == Trivia == | ||
{{Gallery}} | |||
* 大見解 marks ALPHA's debut in BEMANI. | |||
[[ | ** 大見解 being crossed over also marks their first appearance in the DanceDanceRevolution series. | ||
*** Both 大見解 and [[BE LOVIN]] being crossed over also mark Osamu Migitera's first appearance in that series. | |||
* "Roku" (六) is Japanese for "six". | |||
** According to shio, his name was coined by pop'n music director [[Hajime Saito|saito]] (who also points the pun of "roku" with "rock"). | |||
* Roku (六) is Japanese for six. | * According to [[Chihiro Inoue|chihiro]]'s song comments for [[Daikenkai no shinkenkai|大見解の新見解]], she joined KONAMI shortly after 大見解 was completed. | ||
** According to shio, his name was coined by pop'n music director [[Hajime Saito|saito]]. | * Before [[AC pnm 8|pop'n music 8]], in [[CS pnm 6|pop'n music 6 CS]], and in the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解's artist is shown as '''Des-ROW feat. TSUBOI for ALPHA'''. | ||
* Before [[ | |||
** In the beatmania / beatmania III series, 大見解 is credited to '''Des-ROW'''. | ** In the beatmania / beatmania III series, 大見解 is credited to '''Des-ROW'''. | ||
* In beatmania THE FINAL, 大見解's BPM in the song selection screen is not displayed. | |||
* Unused songlist graphics for 大見解 appear in [[AC GF8DM7|GUITARFREAKS 8thMIX & drummania 7thMIX]], nine months before its first appearance in the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania series. | |||
* 大見解 (LONG) is a hidden song in pop'n music 9. To unlock it; | |||
** Play any Des-ROW song for STAGE 1, with the number 6 appearing at least six times on score, max combo, GREATs, GOODs, and BADs. | |||
** 大見解 (LONG) will then be playable on STAGE 2. | |||
* 大見解 (LONG) lost its subtitle in [[AC pnm 11|pop'n music 11]]. Since that game, it is simply known as '''大見解'''. | |||
* In the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解 received a unique video (different from the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video) in [[CS DDR EXTREME2|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2]]. This video was carried to the arcade releases in [[AC DDR SuperNOVA|DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA]]. | * In the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解 received a unique video (different from the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video) in [[CS DDR EXTREME2|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2]]. This video was carried to the arcade releases in [[AC DDR SuperNOVA|DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA]]. | ||
** This video is played full-screen and eliminates any on-screen dancers. | ** This video is played full-screen and eliminates any on-screen dancers prior to [[AC DDR WORLD|DanceDanceRevolution WORLD]]. | ||
** 六 appears in 大見解's DanceDanceRevolution video. | |||
* In [[CS DDR ULTRAMIX3|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3]], 大見解's title and artist were changed to '''Daikenkai''' and '''Des-ROW・UNION''', respectively. | * In [[CS DDR ULTRAMIX3|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3]], 大見解's title and artist were changed to '''Daikenkai''' and '''Des-ROW・UNION''', respectively. | ||
** It also received a Double BEGINNER chart in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3. | ** It also received a Double BEGINNER chart in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3. | ||
* 大見解 received a new EX chart in | * 大見解 received a brand-new EX chart in pop'n music 16 PARTY♪. This chart uses a short version of HIP ROCK LONG (which was removed in the same pop'n music game). | ||
** [[ | ** It received a different EX chart in [[CS pnm portable 2|pop'n music portable 2]]. This chart is exclusive to portable 2, and has never appeared in an arcade pop'n music title. | ||
* 大見解 received an EASY chart in [[ | *** This chart uses the original 大見解 audio, instead of the one received in 16 PARTY♪. | ||
* 大見解 | * 大見解 received an EASY chart in [[AC pnm Sunny Park|pop'n music Sunny Park]], replacing its old 5-Buttons chart. | ||
** From September 17th, 2015 onwards, it | * 大見解 is one of the songs featured on the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ5TWNGBqiA BEMANI SONGS ~Best of pop'n music~] video. | ||
* 大見解 received a new jacket in the REFLEC BEAT series, based | * 大見解 could be unlocked in REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper as part of the 3rd Set (Des-ROW's SELECTION) of the ''BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS'' unlocking system. | ||
** From September 17th, 2015 onwards, it could be purchased from the REFLEC Shop for 3800 Refle. | |||
** In [[AC RB VOLZZA|REFLEC BEAT VOLZZA]], it could be purchased in the Garage for 20 VOLZZA KEYs. | |||
** In [[AC RB VOLZZA 2|REFLEC BEAT VOLZZA 2]], it was playable by default. | |||
* 大見解 received a new jacket in the REFLEC BEAT series, based on its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video (however, it is different from its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania jacket). | |||
* 大見解コア was performed at the ''BEMANI ROCK FES'16'' concert in 2016. | |||
* After being removed from the initial release of [[AC RB Reflesia|REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア]], 大見解 was revived on June 29th, 2017. | |||
* 大見解 appears on KONAMI's mobile rhythm game ''ダンキラ!!! - Boys, be DANCING! -''. | |||
* 大見解 is one of the BEMANI cassette tape songs hidden in ''METAL GEAR SURVIVE''. | |||
** In ''METAL GEAR SURVIVE'', 大見解's title and artist were changed to '''DAIKENKAI''' and '''Des-ROW United''', respectively. | |||
== Music Comment == | == Music Comment == | ||
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Fusing rock and rap together with Japanese lyrics, "DAIKENKAI" is unlike any other song in the DanceDanceRevolution series.<br> | Fusing rock and rap together with Japanese lyrics, "DAIKENKAI" is unlike any other song in the DanceDanceRevolution series.<br> | ||
Its unique style and sound not only produces one of the most memorable and fun songs in the game, but the tricky dance steps and exciting tempo changes will have you always coming back for more. | Its unique style and sound not only produces one of the most memorable and fun songs in the game, but the tricky dance steps and exciting tempo changes will have you always coming back for more. | ||
=== beatmania === | |||
==== Des-ROW ==== | |||
As you know, I made this song for pop'n quite a while ago, uhhe.<br> | |||
I love this song uhe, and I especially love how the lyrics and hard riffs tie together uhehe.<br> | |||
The song's exploding ferocity feels really good to someone like me uhe.<br> | |||
The part where the song speeds up is especially amazing uheuhe. | |||
== Character Information == | == Character Information == | ||
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beatmania difficulty rated from 1 to 9.<br> | beatmania difficulty rated from 1 to 9.<br> | ||
DanceDanceRevolution difficulty rated from 1 to 10 from DDRMAX2 to SuperNOVA2, and 1 to 20 from X onwards.<br> | DanceDanceRevolution difficulty rated from 1 to 10 from DDRMAX2 to SuperNOVA2, and 1 to 20 from X onwards.<br> | ||
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania difficulty rated from 1 to 99 from GUITARFREAKS 5thMIX & drummania 4thMIX onwards.<br> | |||
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania XG and GITADORA difficulty rated from 0.00 to 9.99.<br> | |||
pop'n music difficulty rated from 1 to 43 through pop'n music 20 fantasia, and 1 to 50 from Sunny Park onwards.<br> | pop'n music difficulty rated from 1 to 43 through pop'n music 20 fantasia, and 1 to 50 from Sunny Park onwards.<br> | ||
REFLEC BEAT to groovin'!! Upper difficulty rated from 1 to 10+, | REFLEC BEAT to groovin'!! Upper difficulty rated from 1 to 10+, 1 to 13 in VOLZZA/VOLZZA 2, and 1 to 15 in 悠久のリフレシア.<br> | ||
ポップンリズミン difficulty rated from 1 to 10. (Ratings and notecounts obtained from [http://www.bemaniwiki.com BEMANIWiki 2nd], [http://www.drummania.org/database-dm8.html Drum Mania Database], | ポップンリズミン difficulty rated from 1 to 10. (Ratings and notecounts obtained from [http://kani.no.coocan.jp/bm/bm.htm KANI KANI CRAB], [http://www.bemaniwiki.com BEMANIWiki 2nd], [http://www.drummania.org/database-dm8.html Drum Mania Database], [http://popnfever.s21.xrea.com/popn06/popn6.html Pop'n Music Fever], and [[GITADORA Rating Sources]].) | ||
=== beatmania === | === beatmania === | ||
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{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2 / Dancing Stage Max|1|3|6|8|8|3|5|8|9}} | {{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2 / Dancing Stage Max|1|3|6|8|8|3|5|8|9}} | ||
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3|N/A|3|6|8|N/A|3|5|8|N/A}} | {{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3|N/A|3|6|8|N/A|3|5|8|N/A}} | ||
{{DDR Chart|DanceDanceRevolution GRAND PRIX|4|4|8|12|13|5|8|13|14}} | |||
}} | }} | ||
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{{GFDM XG Chart Notecounts|240|518|739|-|274|358|358|-|237|329|329|-}} | {{GFDM XG Chart Notecounts|240|518|739|-|274|358|358|-|237|329|329|-}} | ||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GF/DM XG2→XG3|2.40|4.50|5.70|-|2.40|4.20|5.10|-|2.20|3.90|4.90|-}} | {{GFDM XG Chart|GF/DM XG2→XG3|2.40|4.50|5.70|-|2.40|4.20|5.10|-|2.20|3.90|4.90|-}} | ||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA→ | {{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA→Tri-Boost|↑3.30|↑5.20|↑6.25|-|↑3.25|↑4.85|↑5.75|-|↑3.10|↑4.60|↑5.55|-}} | ||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA Tri-Boost Re:EVOLVE|↓2.90|↓4.85|↓6.10|-|3.25|↓4.30|↓5.15|-|↓3.00|↓4.05|↓4.90|-}} | |||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA Matixx|↓2.85|↑5.05|↑6.30|-|↑3.75|↑4.85|↑5.55|-|↑3.45|↑4.45|↑5.30|-}} | |||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA EXCHAIN|↓2.40|↑5.35|↑6.70|-|↓3.60|↓4.75|↓5.50|-|↓3.20|↓4.20|↓5.25|-}} | |||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA NEX+AGE|↑2.45|5.35|↑6.75|-|3.60|↑4.80|↑5.55|-|↑3.25|↑4.25|5.25|-}} | |||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA HIGH-VOLTAGE→FUZZ-UP|↓2.20|5.35|↓6.70|-|↑3.90|↑5.25|↑5.90|-|↑3.40|↑4.65|↑5.65|-}} | |||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA GALAXY WAVE→Present|↑2.40|5.35|6.70|-|3.90|5.25|5.90|-|3.40|4.65|5.65|-}} | |||
{{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA (Mobile)|3.30|5.20|6.25|-|3.25|4.85|5.75|-|3.10|4.60|5.55|-}} | {{GFDM XG Chart|GITADORA (Mobile)|3.30|5.20|6.25|-|3.25|4.85|5.75|-|3.10|4.60|5.55|-}} | ||
{{GFDM XG Chart|コナステ GITADORA|2.45|5.35|6.75|-|3.60|4.80|5.55|-|3.25|4.25|5.25|-}} | |||
}} | }} | ||
=== pop'n music === | === pop'n music === | ||
==== Original Version ==== | ==== Original Version ==== | ||
{{pnm Chart Header | ===== Original Charts ===== | ||
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{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 7|↓9|27|34|-|※26| | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 6|12|27|34|-|※26|-}} | ||
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 8| | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 7|↓9|27|34|-|※26|-}} | ||
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 9|& | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 8|↑14|27|34|-|'''21'''|26}} | ||
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 10→14 FEVER!|↓10|↓24|34|-|21|26 | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 9|↓12|27|34|-|21|26}} | ||
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 15 ADVENTURE|10|↑26|34|-|21|26 | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 10→14 FEVER!|↓10|↓24|34|-|21|26}} | ||
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 16 PARTY♪→20 fantasia|10|26|34|'''39'''|21|26 | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 15 ADVENTURE|10|↑26|34|-|21|26}} | ||
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music Sunny Park→Present|※'''11'''|32|40|45|21|26 | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 16 PARTY♪→20 fantasia|10|26|34|'''39'''|21|26}} | ||
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{{pnm Chart|pop'n music 12 いろは CS|10|24|34|-|21|26 | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 8 CS|9|27|34|-|21|26}} | ||
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music | {{pnm Chart|pop'n music 12 いろは CS|10|24|34|-|21|26}} | ||
{{pnm Chart|pop'n music Lively|※'''11'''|32|40|45|-|-}} | |||
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* pop'n music 6 and 7 Battle NORMAL chart: the notecount of this chart correspond to the later HYPER chart of Battle Mode. | * pop'n music 6 and 7 Battle NORMAL chart: the notecount of this chart correspond to the later HYPER chart of Battle Mode. | ||
* pop'n music Sunny Park EASY chart: the notecount of this chart is different from the old 5-Buttons chart (total notes: 166). | * pop'n music Sunny Park EASY chart: the notecount of this chart is different from the old 5-Buttons chart (total notes: 166). | ||
===== portable 2 Charts ===== | |||
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{{pnm Chart|pop'n music portable 2|10|26|34|'''39'''|-|-|psp5b=31|psp7b=16|psp7bh=30}} | |||
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Revision as of 02:32, 11 September 2024
大見解
Song Information
Original Version
Artist: Des-ROW・組
Composition/Arrangement: Des-ROW
Lyrics/Vocals: TSUBOI for ALPHA
BPM: 143-172
Length: 1:47 (DanceDanceRevolution), 1:54 (all other games)
Genre: HIP ROCK (ヒップロック)
pop'n music Character: 六 [6]
pop'n CG designer: shio
Movie: MORO (beatmania), あまも (GF/DM), ? (DanceDanceRevolution)
First Music Game Appearance: pop'n music 6
Other Music Game Appearances:
- beatmania THE FINAL / beatmania III THE FINAL
- DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME
- GUITARFREAKS 9thMIX & drummania 8thMIX
- GuitarFreaksXG2 & DrumManiaXG2 Groove to Live
- REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper
- REFLEC BEAT plus BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS PACK 03
- ポップンリズミン ポップン和風パック1
LONG Version
Artist: Des-ROW・組
Composition/Arrangement: Des-ROW
Lyrics/Vocals: TSUBOI for ALPHA
BPM: 143-172
Length: 3:27
pop'n music Genre: HIP ROCK LONG (ヒップロックLONG)
pop'n music Character: 六 [6-1P]
First Music Game Appearance: pop'n music 9
Other Music Game Appearances: None.
Lyrics
Japanese
★回転頭からない言語 ハイテンションと固いテンポ I 先導するジャイケン5から大見解戦法 ★ref 35+4÷2すらはじけぬコンパ好き達に あっさり鈍角にねじ込むさばけた音楽鬼は どっからどこまでかわからん?が音わけた理由だ どいつとこいつのしゃべくりが、垂らした汗ふきな デンダン変化つけた×電波に乗る大変馬鹿げた発言にゃ グーを作りゃ人格すら変わる程にあがる心拍数は たっぷりあこぎだが、にょい棒を握る田と力 として生まれたときから続けてきたこの遊び方 ★ref ★ref ☆3通りから4通り 本道理より煩悩に まかせたぎりを梱包し がっつり温厚に 本当にこの鈍行に またがっていればdon't worry Don Pach Don Pach Don 今日で とことん交尾する日本島に ☆ref Don Pach Don Pach Don 今日で とことん交尾する日本島に Don Pach Don Pach Don 今日で とことん交尾する日本島に そん時そん時そんちょうし ぶち壊していくぜ見本道理だば
Romaji
★kaitentou karanai gengo HIGH TENSION to katai TEMPO I sendou suru jaiken go kara daikenkai senpou ★ref sanjuugo PLUS yon waru ni sura hajikenu KONPA sukitachi ni assari donkaku ni nejikomu sabaketa ongakki wa dokkara doko made ka wakaran hatena ga oto waketa wake da doitsu to koitsu no shabekuri ga, tarashita asefuki na dendan henka tsuketa batsu denpa ni noru taihen bakageta hatsuken nya guu wo tsukurya jin kaku sura kawaru hodo ni agaru shinpakusuu wa tappuri akogi da ga, nyoi bou wo nigiru ta to chikara doushite umareta toki kara tsuzukete kita kono asobikata ★ref ★ref ☆san doori kara yon doori hon douri yori bonnou ni makaseta giri wo konpoushi gattsuri onkou ni hontou ni kono donkou ni mata gatteireba don't worry Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni ☆ref Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni son toki son toki son choushi buchi kowashiteikuze mihon douri da ba
Song Connections / Remixes
- 大見解 is the first song of Des-ROW's HIP ROCK song series.
- A long version of 大見解, titled 大見解(長っ), appears on the pop'n music Vocal Best 3 CD. This version is the basis for 大見解 (LONG) in pop'n music 9.
- The DanceDanceRevolution series uses a shorter version of 大見解, removing 4 measures from the intro.
- A different arrangement of 大見解 by Des-ROW・組スペシアルr, titled 大見解コア, appears on Des-ROW's first album, D..
- A remix of 大見解 by CALF, titled 大見解の新見解, can be found in pop'n music 16 PARTY♪.
- 大見解 appears as part of the PM SUPER BEST すぺしゃるメドレー, a medley by Tsugumi Kataoka that can be found on the pop'n music SUPER BEST BOX compilation album.
- A cover of 大見解 by Reiji Sakurai was uploaded to his YouTube channel.
Trivia
- This song has different backgrounds, banners, jackets, or other related images. For more information, please see this page.
- 大見解 marks ALPHA's debut in BEMANI.
- 大見解 being crossed over also marks their first appearance in the DanceDanceRevolution series.
- Both 大見解 and BE LOVIN being crossed over also mark Osamu Migitera's first appearance in that series.
- 大見解 being crossed over also marks their first appearance in the DanceDanceRevolution series.
- "Roku" (六) is Japanese for "six".
- According to shio, his name was coined by pop'n music director saito (who also points the pun of "roku" with "rock").
- According to chihiro's song comments for 大見解の新見解, she joined KONAMI shortly after 大見解 was completed.
- Before pop'n music 8, in pop'n music 6 CS, and in the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解's artist is shown as Des-ROW feat. TSUBOI for ALPHA.
- In the beatmania / beatmania III series, 大見解 is credited to Des-ROW.
- In beatmania THE FINAL, 大見解's BPM in the song selection screen is not displayed.
- Unused songlist graphics for 大見解 appear in GUITARFREAKS 8thMIX & drummania 7thMIX, nine months before its first appearance in the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania series.
- 大見解 (LONG) is a hidden song in pop'n music 9. To unlock it;
- Play any Des-ROW song for STAGE 1, with the number 6 appearing at least six times on score, max combo, GREATs, GOODs, and BADs.
- 大見解 (LONG) will then be playable on STAGE 2.
- 大見解 (LONG) lost its subtitle in pop'n music 11. Since that game, it is simply known as 大見解.
- In the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解 received a unique video (different from the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video) in DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2. This video was carried to the arcade releases in DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA.
- This video is played full-screen and eliminates any on-screen dancers prior to DanceDanceRevolution WORLD.
- 六 appears in 大見解's DanceDanceRevolution video.
- In DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3, 大見解's title and artist were changed to Daikenkai and Des-ROW・UNION, respectively.
- It also received a Double BEGINNER chart in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3.
- 大見解 received a brand-new EX chart in pop'n music 16 PARTY♪. This chart uses a short version of HIP ROCK LONG (which was removed in the same pop'n music game).
- It received a different EX chart in pop'n music portable 2. This chart is exclusive to portable 2, and has never appeared in an arcade pop'n music title.
- This chart uses the original 大見解 audio, instead of the one received in 16 PARTY♪.
- It received a different EX chart in pop'n music portable 2. This chart is exclusive to portable 2, and has never appeared in an arcade pop'n music title.
- 大見解 received an EASY chart in pop'n music Sunny Park, replacing its old 5-Buttons chart.
- 大見解 is one of the songs featured on the BEMANI SONGS ~Best of pop'n music~ video.
- 大見解 could be unlocked in REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper as part of the 3rd Set (Des-ROW's SELECTION) of the BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS unlocking system.
- From September 17th, 2015 onwards, it could be purchased from the REFLEC Shop for 3800 Refle.
- In REFLEC BEAT VOLZZA, it could be purchased in the Garage for 20 VOLZZA KEYs.
- In REFLEC BEAT VOLZZA 2, it was playable by default.
- 大見解 received a new jacket in the REFLEC BEAT series, based on its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video (however, it is different from its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania jacket).
- 大見解コア was performed at the BEMANI ROCK FES'16 concert in 2016.
- After being removed from the initial release of REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア, 大見解 was revived on June 29th, 2017.
- 大見解 appears on KONAMI's mobile rhythm game ダンキラ!!! - Boys, be DANCING! -.
- 大見解 is one of the BEMANI cassette tape songs hidden in METAL GEAR SURVIVE.
- In METAL GEAR SURVIVE, 大見解's title and artist were changed to DAIKENKAI and Des-ROW United, respectively.
Music Comment
Untranslated.
Song Production Information
DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2
"DAIKENKAI" is another diverse song that borrows musical influences from a wide variety of musical styles and cultural backgrounds.
Fusing rock and rap together with Japanese lyrics, "DAIKENKAI" is unlike any other song in the DanceDanceRevolution series.
Its unique style and sound not only produces one of the most memorable and fun songs in the game, but the tricky dance steps and exciting tempo changes will have you always coming back for more.
beatmania
Des-ROW
As you know, I made this song for pop'n quite a while ago, uhhe.
I love this song uhe, and I especially love how the lyrics and hard riffs tie together uhehe.
The song's exploding ferocity feels really good to someone like me uhe.
The part where the song speeds up is especially amazing uheuhe.
Character Information
Untranslated.
Staff Comments
Untranslated.
Difficulty & Notecounts
beatmania difficulty rated from 1 to 9.
DanceDanceRevolution difficulty rated from 1 to 10 from DDRMAX2 to SuperNOVA2, and 1 to 20 from X onwards.
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania difficulty rated from 1 to 99 from GUITARFREAKS 5thMIX & drummania 4thMIX onwards.
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania XG and GITADORA difficulty rated from 0.00 to 9.99.
pop'n music difficulty rated from 1 to 43 through pop'n music 20 fantasia, and 1 to 50 from Sunny Park onwards.
REFLEC BEAT to groovin'!! Upper difficulty rated from 1 to 10+, 1 to 13 in VOLZZA/VOLZZA 2, and 1 to 15 in 悠久のリフレシア.
ポップンリズミン difficulty rated from 1 to 10. (Ratings and notecounts obtained from KANI KANI CRAB, BEMANIWiki 2nd, Drum Mania Database, Pop'n Music Fever, and GITADORA Rating Sources.)
beatmania
Game | SP Difficulty | DP Difficulty | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Normal | Hard | Another | Normal | Hard | Another | |
Notecounts | 500 | 673 | 692 | 619 | 692 | 692 |
beatmania THE FINAL | 6 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 8 | 8 |
beatmania III THE FINAL | 6 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 7 | 8 |
DanceDanceRevolution
Game | Single | Double | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Beginner | Basic | Difficult | Expert | Challenge | Basic | Difficult | Expert | Challenge | |
Notecounts / Freeze Arrows / Shock Arrows | 164 / 0 | 176 / 2 | 269 / 10 | 425 / 16 | 433 / 16 / 0 | 203 / 2 | 268 / 8 | 415 / 18 | 424 / 18 / 0 |
DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME→SuperNOVA2 | 1 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 8 | 9 |
DanceDanceRevolution X→Present | 4 | 4 | 8 | 12 | 13 | 5 | 8 | 13 | 14 |
DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME CS JP | 1 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 8 | 9 |
DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2 / Dancing Stage Max | 1 | 3 | 6 | 8 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 8 | 9 |
DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3 | N/A | 3 | 6 | 8 | N/A | 3 | 5 | 8 | N/A |
DanceDanceRevolution GRAND PRIX | 4 | 4 | 8 | 12 | 13 | 5 | 8 | 13 | 14 |
GuitarFreaks & DrumMania
Original Series
Game | Drum | Guitar | Bass | Open | ||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | |
Notecounts | 240 | 518 | 739 | 306 | 358 | 358 | 273 | 329 | - | 306 | 358 | 358 |
GF9/dm8→GF/DM V2 | 18 | 40 | 60 | 21 | 30 | 34 | 20 | 31 | - | 22 | 47 | 54 |
GF/DM V3 | 18 | 40 | ↑64 | 21 | 30 | ↑42 | 20 | 31 | - | 22 | 47 | ↑59 |
GF/DM V4→V8 | 18 | 40 | 64 | 21 | 30 | 42 | ↑24 | 31 | - | 22 | 47 | 59 |
GF/DM V CS | 18 | 40 | 60 | 21 | 30 | 34 | 20 | 31 | - | 22 | 47 | 54 |
XG & GITADORA Series
Game | Drum | Guitar | Bass | |||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Master | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Master | Basic | Advanced | Extreme | Master | |
Notecounts | 240 | 518 | 739 | - | 274 | 358 | 358 | - | 237 | 329 | 329 | - |
GF/DM XG2→XG3 | 2.40 | 4.50 | 5.70 | - | 2.40 | 4.20 | 5.10 | - | 2.20 | 3.90 | 4.90 | - |
GITADORA→Tri-Boost | ↑3.30 | ↑5.20 | ↑6.25 | - | ↑3.25 | ↑4.85 | ↑5.75 | - | ↑3.10 | ↑4.60 | ↑5.55 | - |
GITADORA Tri-Boost Re:EVOLVE | ↓2.90 | ↓4.85 | ↓6.10 | - | 3.25 | ↓4.30 | ↓5.15 | - | ↓3.00 | ↓4.05 | ↓4.90 | - |
GITADORA Matixx | ↓2.85 | ↑5.05 | ↑6.30 | - | ↑3.75 | ↑4.85 | ↑5.55 | - | ↑3.45 | ↑4.45 | ↑5.30 | - |
GITADORA EXCHAIN | ↓2.40 | ↑5.35 | ↑6.70 | - | ↓3.60 | ↓4.75 | ↓5.50 | - | ↓3.20 | ↓4.20 | ↓5.25 | - |
GITADORA NEX+AGE | ↑2.45 | 5.35 | ↑6.75 | - | 3.60 | ↑4.80 | ↑5.55 | - | ↑3.25 | ↑4.25 | 5.25 | - |
GITADORA HIGH-VOLTAGE→FUZZ-UP | ↓2.20 | 5.35 | ↓6.70 | - | ↑3.90 | ↑5.25 | ↑5.90 | - | ↑3.40 | ↑4.65 | ↑5.65 | - |
GITADORA GALAXY WAVE→Present | ↑2.40 | 5.35 | 6.70 | - | 3.90 | 5.25 | 5.90 | - | 3.40 | 4.65 | 5.65 | - |
GITADORA (Mobile) | 3.30 | 5.20 | 6.25 | - | 3.25 | 4.85 | 5.75 | - | 3.10 | 4.60 | 5.55 | - |
コナステ GITADORA | 2.45 | 5.35 | 6.75 | - | 3.60 | 4.80 | 5.55 | - | 3.25 | 4.25 | 5.25 | - |
pop'n music
Original Version
Original Charts
Game | Normal Mode | Battle Mode | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
EASY | NORMAL | HYPER | EX | NORMAL | HYPER | |
Notecounts | 253 | 545 | 690 | 947 | 420 | 526 |
pop'n music 6 | 12 | 27 | 34 | - | ※26 | - |
pop'n music 7 | ↓9 | 27 | 34 | - | ※26 | - |
pop'n music 8 | ↑14 | 27 | 34 | - | 21 | 26 |
pop'n music 9 | ↓12 | 27 | 34 | - | 21 | 26 |
pop'n music 10→14 FEVER! | ↓10 | ↓24 | 34 | - | 21 | 26 |
pop'n music 15 ADVENTURE | 10 | ↑26 | 34 | - | 21 | 26 |
pop'n music 16 PARTY♪→20 fantasia | 10 | 26 | 34 | 39 | 21 | 26 |
pop'n music Sunny Park→Present | ※11 | 32 | 40 | 45 | 21 | 26 |
pop'n music 5 CS | 13 | 20 | 29 | - | - | - |
pop'n music 6 CS | 12 | 27 | 34 | - | - | - |
pop'n music 8 CS | 9 | 27 | 34 | - | 21 | 26 |
pop'n music 12 いろは CS | 10 | 24 | 34 | - | 21 | 26 |
pop'n music Lively | ※11 | 32 | 40 | 45 | - | - |
※ Denotes chart has been revised from the corresponding AC chart:
- pop'n music 6 and 7 Battle NORMAL chart: the notecount of this chart correspond to the later HYPER chart of Battle Mode.
- pop'n music Sunny Park EASY chart: the notecount of this chart is different from the old 5-Buttons chart (total notes: 166).
portable 2 Charts
Game | Normal Mode | Battle Mode | PSP Exclusive | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
5-Buttons | NORMAL | HYPER | EX | NORMAL | HYPER | 5B HYPER | 7-Buttons | 7B HYPER | |
Notecounts | 253 | 545 | 690 | 909 | - | - | 590 | 369 | 654 |
pop'n music portable 2 | 10 | 26 | 34 | 39 | - | - | 31 | 16 | 30 |
LONG Version
Game | Normal Mode | Battle Mode | ||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
5-Buttons | NORMAL | HYPER | EX | NORMAL | HYPER | |
Notecounts | 655 | 987 | 1337 | 1461 | - | - |
pop'n music 9 | 12 | 26 | 35 | 39 | - | - |
pop'n music 10→15 ADVENTURE | ↓9 | 26 | 35 | 39 | - | - |
pop'n music 9 CS | 9 | 26 | 35 | 39 | - | - |
REFLEC BEAT
Old Charts
Game | Level | |||
---|---|---|---|---|
Basic | Medium | Hard | Special | |
Notecounts | 163 | 368 | 711 | - |
REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper→VOLZZA 2 | 3 | 7 | 10 | - |
REFLEC BEAT plus | 3 | 7 | 10 | - |
New Charts
Game | Level | |||
---|---|---|---|---|
Basic | Medium | Hard | White Hard | |
Notecounts | 176 | 386 | 734 | - |
REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア | 4 | 9 | 12 | - |
ポップンリズミン
Game | Difficulties | ||
---|---|---|---|
Normal | Hyper | EX | |
Notecounts | 161 | 324 | 385 |
ポップンリズミン | 2 | 5 | 7 |
Des-ROW's HIP ROCK song series | |
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Main Songs | 大見解 - 男々道 - 雪上断火 - 差無来!! - 路男 - 一激必翔 - 火風陸空 - 令和の国 - 狼弦暴威 |
Related Songs | 大見解の新見解 - 男々道 -otoko PHQ remix- - 雪上断火 14tuple |
BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS | |
---|---|
1st Set (DJ TOTTO's SELECTION) | ABSOLUTE - CHOCOLATE PHILOSOPHY - LOGICAL DASH - era (nostalmix) |
2nd Set (TAG's SELECTION) | DROP THE BOMB - AXIS - fellows - MAD BLAST |
3rd Set (Des-ROW's SELECTION) | 大見解 - Funky sonic World - BE LOVIN - CURUS |
4th Set (Ryu☆'s SELECTION) | GENOM SCREAMS - Presto - JET WORLD - Go Beyond!! |
5th Set (TOMOSUKE's SELECTION) | I'M GONNA GET YOU! - the keel - LOVE IS ORANGE - Gamelan de Couple |
6th Set (kors k's SELECTION) | Flash Back 90's - White Eve - HELL SCAPER - starmine |
7th Set (Users' SELECTION) | 明鏡止水 - Pink Rose - sync - Beyond The Earth |
8th Set (PHQUASE's SELECTION) | COSMIC COWGIRL - BOBBY SUE AND SKINNY JIM - 男々道 - Spica |
9th Set (wac's SELECTION) | PULSE - GRADIUSIC CYBER - Nova emoção - 踊るフィーバーロボ |
10th Set (dj TAKA's SELECTION) | ♥Love²シュガ→♥ - Lucy - GUILTY - V - V₂ |
CONTENTS SELECTION | ZERO-ONE - MAKE A JAM! - Ping×Pong×Dash - DAY DREAM |
- Songs
- Beatmania Songs
- DanceDanceRevolution Songs
- DanceDanceRevolution Songs with Unique Videos
- GuitarFreaks & DrumMania Songs
- GuitarFreaks & DrumMania XG & GITADORA Songs
- Pop'n music Songs
- Pop'n music 6 Songs
- Pop'n music 9 Songs
- Pop'n music BEMANI Songs
- REFLEC BEAT Songs
- REFLEC BEAT plus Songs
- Songs in 5 or more BEMANI games
- Songs that sound different between difficulties