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* "Roku" (六) is Japanese for "six".
* "Roku" (六) is Japanese for "six".
** According to shio, his name was coined by pop'n music director [[Hajime Saito|saito]] (who also points the pun of "roku" with "rock").
** According to shio, his name was coined by pop'n music director [[Hajime Saito|saito]] (who also points the pun of "roku" with "rock").
* According to [[Chihiro Inoue|chihiro]]'s song comments for [[Daikenkai no shinkenkai|大見解の新見解]], she joined KONAMI shortly after 大見解 was completed.
* Before [[AC pnm 8|pop'n music 8]], in [[CS pnm 6|pop'n music 6 CS]], and in the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解's artist is shown as '''Des-ROW feat. TSUBOI for ALPHA'''.
* Before [[AC pnm 8|pop'n music 8]], in [[CS pnm 6|pop'n music 6 CS]], and in the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解's artist is shown as '''Des-ROW feat. TSUBOI for ALPHA'''.
** In the beatmania / beatmania III series, 大見解 is credited to '''Des-ROW'''.
** In the beatmania / beatmania III series, 大見解 is credited to '''Des-ROW'''.

Revision as of 16:14, 12 December 2020

大見解

Song Information

Original Version

大見解's pop'n music banner.
大見解's DanceDanceRevolution / ポップンリズミン jacket.
大見解's GuitarFreaks & DrumMania jacket.
大見解's REFLEC BEAT jacket.

Artist: Des-ROW・組
Composition/Arrangement: Des-ROW
Lyrics/Vocals: TSUBOI for ALPHA
BPM: 143-172
Length: 1:47 (DanceDanceRevolution), 1:54 (all other games)
Genre: HIP ROCK (ヒップロック)
pop'n music Character: 六 [6]
pop'n CG design: shio
Movie: MORO (beatmania), あまも (GF/DM), ? (DanceDanceRevolution)
First Music Game Appearance: pop'n music 6
Other Music Game Appearances:

LONG Version

大見解(LONG)'s pop'n music banner.

Artist: Des-ROW・組
Composition/Arrangement: Des-ROW
Lyrics/Vocals: TSUBOI for ALPHA
BPM: 143-172
Length: 3:27
pop'n music Genre: HIP ROCK LONG (ヒップロックLONG)
pop'n music Character: 六 [6-1P]
First Music Game Appearance: pop'n music 9
Other Music Game Appearances: None.

Lyrics

Japanese

★回転頭からない言語　ハイテンションと固いテンポ
　I 先導するジャイケン5から大見解戦法

★ref

　35+4÷2すらはじけぬコンパ好き達に
　あっさり鈍角にねじ込むさばけた音楽鬼は
　どっからどこまでかわからん？が音わけた理由だ
　どいつとこいつのしゃべくりが、垂らした汗ふきな

　デンダン変化つけた×電波に乗る大変馬鹿げた発言にゃ
　グーを作りゃ人格すら変わる程にあがる心拍数は
　たっぷりあこぎだが、にょい棒を握る田と力
　として生まれたときから続けてきたこの遊び方

★ref
★ref

☆3通りから4通り　本道理より煩悩に
　まかせたぎりを梱包し　がっつり温厚に
　本当にこの鈍行に　またがっていればdon't worry
　Don Pach Don Pach Don　今日で　とことん交尾する日本島に

☆ref

　Don Pach Don Pach Don　今日で　とことん交尾する日本島に
　Don Pach Don Pach Don　今日で　とことん交尾する日本島に

　そん時そん時そんちょうし　ぶち壊していくぜ見本道理だば

Romaji

★kaitentou karanai gengo HIGH TENSION to katai TEMPO
 I sendou suru jaiken go kara daikenkai senpou

★ref

 sanjuugo PLUS yon waru ni sura hajikenu KONPA sukitachi ni
 assari donkaku ni nejikomu sabaketa ongakki wa
 dokkara doko made ka wakaran hatena ga oto waketa wake da
 doitsu to koitsu no shabekuri ga, tarashita asefuki na

 dendan henka tsuketa batsu denpa ni noru taihen bakageta hatsuken nya
 guu wo tsukurya jin kaku sura kawaru hodo ni agaru shinpakusuu wa
 tappuri akogi da ga, nyoi bou wo nigiru ta to chikara
 doushite umareta toki kara tsuzukete kita kono asobikata

★ref
★ref

☆san doori kara yon doori hon douri yori bonnou ni
 makaseta giri wo konpoushi gattsuri onkou ni
 hontou ni kono donkou ni mata gatteireba don't worry
 Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni

☆ref

 Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni
 Don Pach Don Pach Don kyou de doko don koubi suru nihontou ni

 son toki son toki son choushi buchi kowashiteikuze mihon douri da ba

Song Connections / Remixes

  • 大見解 is the first song in the HIP ROCK series of songs.
  • A long version of 大見解, titled 大見解（長っ), appears on the pop'n music Vocal Best 3 CD. This version is the basis for 大見解 (LONG) in pop'n music 9.
  • The DanceDanceRevolution series uses a shorter version of 大見解.
  • A different arrangement of 大見解 by Des-ROW・組スペシアルr, titled 大見解コア, appears on Des-ROW's first album, D..
  • A remix of 大見解 by CALF, titled 大見解の新見解, can be found in pop'n music 16 PARTY♪.
  • 大見解 appears as part of the PM SUPER BEST すぺしゃるメドレー, a medley by Tsugumi Kataoka that can be found on the pop'n music SUPER BEST BOX compilation album.
  • A cover of 大見解 by Reiji Sakurai was uploaded to his YouTube channel.

Trivia

This song has different backgrounds, banners, jackets, or other related images. For more information, please see this page.
  • 大見解 marks ALPHA's debut in BEMANI.
  • "Roku" (六) is Japanese for "six".
    • According to shio, his name was coined by pop'n music director saito (who also points the pun of "roku" with "rock").
  • According to chihiro's song comments for 大見解の新見解, she joined KONAMI shortly after 大見解 was completed.
  • Before pop'n music 8, in pop'n music 6 CS, and in the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解's artist is shown as Des-ROW feat. TSUBOI for ALPHA.
    • In the beatmania / beatmania III series, 大見解 is credited to Des-ROW.
  • Unused songlist graphics for 大見解 appear in GUITARFREAKS 8thMIX & drummania 7thMIX, nine months before its first appearance in the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania series.
  • 大見解 (LONG) is a hidden song in pop'n music 9. To unlock it;
    • Play any Des-ROW song for STAGE 1, with the number 6 appearing at least six times on score, max combo, GREATs, GOODs, and BADs.
    • 大見解 (LONG) will then be playable on STAGE 2.
  • 大見解 (LONG) lost its subtitle in pop'n music 11. Since that game, it is simply known as 大見解.
  • In the DanceDanceRevolution series, 大見解 received a unique video (different from the GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video) in DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2. This video was carried to the arcade releases in DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA.
    • This video is played full-screen and eliminates any on-screen dancers.
    • 六 appears in 大見解's DanceDanceRevolution video.
  • In DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3, 大見解's title and artist were changed to Daikenkai and Des-ROW・UNION, respectively.
    • It also received a Double BEGINNER chart in DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3.
  • 大見解 received a brand-new EX chart in pop'n music 16 PARTY♪. This chart uses a short version of HIP ROCK LONG (which was removed in the same pop'n music game).
    • It received a different EX chart in pop'n music portable 2. This chart is exclusive to portable 2, and has never appeared in an arcade pop'n music title.
      • This chart uses the original 大見解 audio, instead of the one received in 16 PARTY♪.
  • 大見解 received an EASY chart in pop'n music Sunny Park, replacing its old 5-Buttons chart.
  • 大見解 is one of the songs featured on the BEMANI SONGS ～Best of pop'n music～ video.
  • 大見解 could be unlocked in REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper as part of the 3rd Set (Des-ROW's SELECTION) of the BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS unlocking system.
    • From September 17th, 2015 onwards, it could be purchased from the REFLEC Shop for 3800 Refle.
    • In REFLEC BEAT VOLZZA, it could be purchased in the Garage for 20 VOLZZA KEYs.
    • In REFLEC BEAT VOLZZA 2, it was playable by default.
  • 大見解 received a new jacket in the REFLEC BEAT series, based on its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania video (however, it is different from its GuitarFreaks & DrumMania jacket).
  • After being removed from the initial release of REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア, 大見解 was revived on June 29th, 2017.
  • 大見解 appears on KONAMI's mobile rhythm game ダンキラ!!! - Boys, be DANCING! -.

Music Comment

Untranslated.

Song Production Information

DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2

"DAIKENKAI" is another diverse song that borrows musical influences from a wide variety of musical styles and cultural backgrounds.
Fusing rock and rap together with Japanese lyrics, "DAIKENKAI" is unlike any other song in the DanceDanceRevolution series.
Its unique style and sound not only produces one of the most memorable and fun songs in the game, but the tricky dance steps and exciting tempo changes will have you always coming back for more.

beatmania

Des-ROW

As you know, I made this song for pop'n quite a while ago, uhhe.
I love this song uhe, and I especially love how the lyrics and hard riffs tie together uhehe.
The song's exploding ferocity feels really good to someone like me uhe.
The part where the song speeds up is especially amazing uheuhe.

Character Information

Untranslated.

Staff Comments

Untranslated.

Difficulty & Notecounts

beatmania difficulty rated from 1 to 9.
DanceDanceRevolution difficulty rated from 1 to 10 from DDRMAX2 to SuperNOVA2, and 1 to 20 from X onwards.
GF/DM difficulty rated from 1 to 99.
GF/DM XG and GITADORA difficulty rated from 0.00 to 9.99.
pop'n music difficulty rated from 1 to 43 through pop'n music 20 fantasia, and 1 to 50 from Sunny Park onwards.
REFLEC BEAT to groovin'!! Upper difficulty rated from 1 to 10+, 1 to 13 in VOLZZA/VOLZZA 2, and 1 to 15 in 悠久のリフレシア.
ポップンリズミン difficulty rated from 1 to 10. (Ratings and notecounts obtained from KANI KANI CRAB, BEMANIWiki 2nd, Drum Mania Database, and Pop'n Music Fever.)

beatmania

Game SP Difficulty DP Difficulty
Normal Hard Another Normal Hard Another
Notecounts 500 673 692 619 692 692
beatmania THE FINAL 6 7 8 6 8 8
beatmania III THE FINAL 6 7 8 6 7 8

DanceDanceRevolution

Game Single Double
Beginner Basic Difficult Expert Challenge Basic Difficult Expert Challenge
Notecounts / Freeze Arrows / Shock Arrows 164 / 0 176 / 2 269 / 10 425 / 16 433 / 16 / 0 203 / 2 268 / 8 415 / 18 424 / 18 / 0
DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME→SuperNOVA2 1 3 6 8 8 3 5 8 9
DanceDanceRevolution X→Present 4 4 8 12 13 5 8 13 14
DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME CS JP 1 3 6 8 8 3 5 8 9
DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2 / Dancing Stage Max 1 3 6 8 8 3 5 8 9
DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3 / Dancing Stage Unleashed3 N/A 3 6 8 N/A 3 5 8 N/A

GuitarFreaks & DrumMania

Original Series

Game Drum Guitar Bass Open
Basic Advanced Extreme Basic Advanced Extreme Basic Advanced Extreme Basic Advanced Extreme
Notecounts 240 518 739 306 358 358 273 329 - 306 358 358
GF9/dm8→GF/DM V2 18 40 60 21 30 34 20 31 - 22 47 54
GF/DM V3 18 40 ↑64 21 30 ↑42 20 31 - 22 47 ↑59
GF/DM V4→V8 18 40 64 21 30 42 ↑24 31 - 22 47 59
GF/DM V CS 18 40 60 21 30 34 20 31 - 22 47 54

XG & GITADORA Series

Game Drum Guitar Bass
Basic Advanced Extreme Master Basic Advanced Extreme Master Basic Advanced Extreme Master
Notecounts 240 518 739 - 274 358 358 - 237 329 329 -
GF/DM XG2→XG3 2.40 4.50 5.70 - 2.40 4.20 5.10 - 2.20 3.90 4.90 -
GITADORA→Tri-Boost ↑3.30 ↑5.20 ↑6.25 - ↑3.25 ↑4.85 ↑5.75 - ↑3.10 ↑4.60 ↑5.55 -
GITADORA Tri-Boost Re:EVOLVE ↓2.90 ↓4.85 ↓6.10 - 3.25 ↓4.30 ↓5.15 - ↓3.00 ↓4.05 ↓4.90 -
GITADORA Matixx ↓2.85 ↑5.05 ↑6.30 - ↑3.75 ↑4.85 ↑5.55 - ↑3.45 ↑4.45 ↑5.30 -
GITADORA EXCHAIN ↓2.40 ↑5.35 ↑6.70 - ↓3.60 ↓4.75 ↓5.50 - ↓3.20 ↓4.20 ↓5.25 -
GITADORA NEX+AGE→Present ↑2.45 5.35 ↑6.75 - 3.60 ↑4.80 ↑5.55 - ↑3.25 ↑4.25 5.25 -
GITADORA (Mobile) 3.30 5.20 6.25 - 3.25 4.85 5.75 - 3.10 4.60 5.55 -

pop'n music

Original Version

Original Charts
Game Normal Mode Battle Mode
EASY NORMAL HYPER EX NORMAL HYPER
Notecounts 253 545 690 947 420 526
pop'n music 6 12 27 34 - ※26 -
pop'n music 7 ↓9 27 34 - ※26 -
pop'n music 8 - 27 34 - 21 26
pop'n music 9 ↑12 27 34 - 21 26
pop'n music 10→14 FEVER! ↓10 ↓24 34 - 21 26
pop'n music 15 ADVENTURE 10 ↑26 34 - 21 26
pop'n music 16 PARTY♪→20 fantasia 10 26 34 39 21 26
pop'n music Sunny Park→Present ※11 32 40 45 21 26
pop'n music 5 CS 13 20 29 - - -
pop'n music 6 CS 12 27 34 - - -
pop'n music 8 CS 9 27 34 - 21 26
pop'n music 12 いろは CS 10 24 34 - 21 26
pop'n music Lively ※11 32 40 45 - -

※ Denotes chart has been revised from the corresponding AC chart:

  • pop'n music 6 and 7 Battle NORMAL chart: the notecount of this chart correspond to the later HYPER chart of Battle Mode.
  • pop'n music Sunny Park EASY chart: the notecount of this chart is different from the old 5-Buttons chart (total notes: 166).
portable 2 Charts
Game Normal Mode Battle Mode PSP Exclusive
5-Buttons NORMAL HYPER EX NORMAL HYPER 5B HYPER 7-Buttons 7B HYPER
Notecounts 253 545 690 909 - - 590 369 654
pop'n music portable 2 10 26 34 39 - - 31 16 30

LONG Version

Game Normal Mode Battle Mode
5-Buttons NORMAL HYPER EX NORMAL HYPER
Notecounts 655 987 1337 1461 - -
pop'n music 9 12 26 35 39 - -
pop'n music 10→15 ADVENTURE ↓9 26 35 39 - -
pop'n music 9 CS 9 26 35 39 - -

REFLEC BEAT

Old Charts

Game Level
Basic Medium Hard Special
Notecounts 163 368 711 -
REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper→VOLZZA 2 3 7 10 -
REFLEC BEAT plus 3 7 10 -


New Charts

Game Level
Basic Medium Hard White
Hard
Notecounts 176 386 734 -
REFLEC BEAT 悠久のリフレシア 4 9 12 -


ポップンリズミン

Game Difficulties
Normal Hyper EX
Notecounts 161 324 385
ポップンリズミン 2 5 7
Des-ROW's HIP ROCK song series
Main Songs 大見解 - 男々道 - 雪上断火 - 差無来！！ - 路男 - 一激必翔 - 火風陸空 - 令和の国 - 狼弦暴威
Related Songs 大見解の新見解 - 男々道 -otoko PHQ remix- - 雪上断火 14tuple
HELL course songs
HELL 1-5 I'm on Fire - すれちがう2人 Millennium mix - R.C. - 西新宿清掃曲
HELL 1-5 ReNew すてきなタブーラ - 水中家族のテーマ - お江戸花吹雪 TEYAN-day MIX - Concertare
HELL 6 Midnight Yoghurt（女SPY☆お色気ゴーゴー脱出大作戦） - 작은행복 - H@ppy Choice - 大見解
HELL 7 Denpasar - SA-DA-ME - 夜間行 - Ending theme of pop'n music 6
HELL 6-7 ReNew Maritare! - The tyro's reverie - 悲しいね - 夜間行
HELL the EIGHT ♥LOVE² シュガ→♥ - Over the night - pure - 釈迦
HELL 9 Dynamic! Atomic! S.C.B.G. ~ver.1~ - デパ地下のお話 - 男々道 - ブタパンチのテーマ
HELL 10 明鏡止水 - Jack - Holy Forest - ULTRA BUTTERFLY(坤剛力)
HELL-11 烏 - 怒れる大きな白い馬 - カゲロウ - でんがなマンガナ
HELL 12 雫 - Vairocana - 進め！爺ちゃん！ - 雪上断火
HELL 13 BAROQUE HOEDOWN - HypArcSin(x) - 文明開化 - ƒƒƒƒƒ
真HELL 13 フリーパス - KING of the SEA - Sanctum Crusade - 真超深ＴＩＯＮ
HELL 14 hora de verdad - BBLLAASSTT!! - 猿の経 - Übertreffen
HELL 1~14 Vairocana - ULTRA BUTTERFLY(坤剛力) - ブタパンチのテーマ - Übertreffen
HELL 15 Votum stellarum -forest #25 RMX- - 天庭 - ZETA〜素数の世界と超越者〜 - neu
HELL 16 バイキングマン - CHIP'N'RIDDIM - 万物快楽理論 - シュレーディンガーの猫
HELL 17 ƒƒƒƒƒ op.2 - 突然ゴルゴンゾーラ - Geiselhaus - 音楽
せんごく地獄 蛇神 - 西軍||∴⊂SEKIGAHARA⊃∴||東軍 - NOBUNAGA - 序
HELL TUNE STREET Remain - BabeL ～Grand Story～ - BabeL ～Next Story～ - BabeL ～roof garden～
HELL fantasia Southern Cross - カラルの月 - Eine Haube ～聖地の果てにあるもの～ - 少年は空を辿る
HELL Sunny Park コドモライブ - 背徳と邪悪のエピタフ - 生命の焔纏いて - 生命の環を紡いで
BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS
1st Set (DJ TOTTO's SELECTION) ABSOLUTE - CHOCOLATE PHILOSOPHY - LOGICAL DASH - era (nostalmix)
2nd Set (TAG's SELECTION) DROP THE BOMB - AXIS - fellows - MAD BLAST
3rd Set (Des-ROW's SELECTION) 大見解 - Funky sonic World - BE LOVIN - CURUS
4th Set (Ryu☆'s SELECTION) GENOM SCREAMS - Presto - JET WORLD - Go Beyond!!
5th Set (TOMOSUKE's SELECTION) I'M GONNA GET YOU! - the keel - LOVE IS ORANGE - Gamelan de Couple
6th Set (kors k's SELECTION) Flash Back 90's - White Eve - HELL SCAPER - starmine
7th Set (Users' SELECTION) 明鏡止水 - Pink Rose - sync - Beyond The Earth
8th Set (PHQUASE's SELECTION) COSMIC COWGIRL - BOBBY SUE AND SKINNY JIM - 男々道 - Spica
9th Set (wac's SELECTION) PULSE - GRADIUSIC CYBER - Nova emoção - 踊るフィーバーロボ
10th Set (dj TAKA's SELECTION) ♥Love²シュガ→♥ - Lucy - GUILTY - V - V₂
CONTENTS SELECTION ZERO-ONE - MAKE A JAM! - Ping×Pong×Dash - DAY DREAM
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